And you Mick have been doing this for how long? Like five plus years or...
This is years ago. And, you know, just be transparent. I, the deeper I dug into mixed theories.
And one of the first things I did was I was on Wikipedia, just messing around with I used to edit Wikipedia about, I've got about 18 years ago.
And so after that, it became kind of a natural thing for me to start looking at UFO videos. And I occasionally did a few over the years, but it really kind of took off in, I think it was 2016, or perhaps the start of 2017.
And I firmly believe that there was life out there, not that it was here. Fast forward. Over the last, I'd say three, four years. I have done it.
But in his bottom line assessment was that the extraterrestrial hypothesis is the least unsatisfactory hypothesis for what hundreds and thousands of people have observed at close range over the last 80 years in many cases.
Thanks so much to Lucy, sponsoring today's episode. So I think we should just dive into the footage. And you know, yeah, that's just interrupt. I just want to quickly just acknowledge and again, I bring a historical kind of government perspective this. Can we just acknowledge what has happened over the last five years. We've gone 80 years and I we're literally at the 80 year anniversary of the first reports of food fighters. Like that happened November of 1944 80 years of denial, ridicule of the scation to.
And I love this quote from Mick June 20, 2020. This is when Rubio snuck a provision into, he know what we're talking about right stuck a provision into Senate intelligence committee language and mixed quote is years will pass. It will recede in memory little will come of it. I assure you in in June of 2020, I probably would have agreed with that. Now we have arrow.
Four years ago when you wrote that tweet, I you would you probably thought I was crazy. The name. The nothing will happen was not that nothing would happen. It was more than nothing would happen in terms of getting evidence that aliens are visiting, which is the thing they really want. I'm actually really happy that we've got all this progress. And we've got this these investigations and the arrows doing a lot of work. You have the spending millions of dollars on investigating it. And hopefully they will release their information.
Don't think we've really got much further along the road in terms of actual evidence of genuinely anomalous phenomena that didn't exist five years ago.
I've cut back a lot on my alcohol consumption over the last few years.
I think it's difficult now because it's literally 20 years since this happened.
I mean, this is like years of work that we pray.
They spent two years ruling things out.
That was the thing I sent you years ago.
This is 20 years ago now.
It's a shame that they didn't come forward years ago.
So we've got this kind of second hand 10 years later.
starting with 80 years ago with the food fighters.
And I still like a couple of years ago.
But the only thing you said for seven years about this, you never said, no, it could be
There's a couple of years, I guess.
Based on them being a narrow field of zoom, uh, I sent this to you years ago, narrow
which was filmed several years later.
because you spent years...
So, will you even think of seven years as raw?
And he, but this guy maintained a queue clearance for 20 years after this.
couple years that they metallic objects eight or nine it's all documented you know it's it's it's
sort of anomalous crafts and that people would this would become the consensus in 10 years which is
i was like there's no possible way that secret could have been kept for x amount of years
go off yeah your analytic basically stories from 70 80 years ago it's it's not really very useful
And it was like 80 years ago.
I think Oak Ridge for another 20 years.
Why would you continue to hire him for the next 20 years unless that was actually just