And Mick has done an amazing job. I think you're doing a service of debunking a lot of UFO videos that just are clearly fake.
And you Mick have been doing this for how long? Like five plus years or...
Well, Jesse, thanks for having us and Mick, thanks for being here.
And then believe it or not, Mick West has a lot to do with my kind of my interests in this topic.
And first of all, I'll just say, like, who's this Mick West guy? Who thinks he knows more than the government? Like, okay.
Awesome. And before we get to you, Mick, for context for the audience, we're going to be going over kind of the classic historic landmark cases.
Mick, what about you? How did you get into this?
And I love this quote from Mick June 20, 2020. This is when Rubio snuck a provision into, he know what we're talking about right stuck a provision into Senate intelligence committee language and mixed quote is years will pass. It will recede in memory little will come of it. I assure you in in June of 2020, I probably would have agreed with that. Now we have arrow.
Mick, how do you to Merrick's point? There has been a lot of momentum if you're just tracking social consensus hype around this stuff. I mean, I run a YouTube channel that is, you know, really surrounds this topic, particularly. I've seen a lot of interesting.
Mick, can I put you on the spot actually?
So just for the audience, before we went live here, Mick said we agreed to rock paper scissors.
Mick said he's going to go with paper and I went with scissors. So here we are.
Was it a seagull, Mick?
And then, Mick, I got, I love this.
The me who's engaged with Mick, who has studied this topic, would be much more interested.
And I'll just just counter Mick, or just to maybe respond, I'm very much on the opposite of the spectrum.
And then to kind of flip it on you, Mick, if the video didn't exist, and you couldn't easily straw man it with a debunk,
So Mick, can I just quickly say, this video's not commencing to folks on its own.
Oh, yeah, I really want to show you the kind of what what road and and Mick.
So Mick has several videos up looking at the flare one video and one of them, he hypothesizes that it's a distant airliner.
Thank you, Mick.
What Mick has done is incredible.
But Mick, you always say like,
Well, what I guess, Mick,
Why don't you set up this one, Mick?
And then the light how put off rebuttal to what you just said, Mick, is especially when it comes to kind of optical sensors,
We can reconstruct and Mick mentioned this kind of this vertical
But using Mick's SIEM, and again, Mick, thank you for, you know,
When Mick talks, I really want to show people what this looks like.
Right after he said, Mick might be right, but for the wrong way, there's a different
And then on, on your side, Mick, I think you probably have to take prima facia, you know,
Mick knows what I mean.
So this explicitly, so Mick says,
The, quote, glare that Mick mentions
At one point, Mick thought that he...
And I'm just saying quote unquote because nobody has any good, even you have to admit, Mick,
I'll push back slightly, Mick.
Mick?
they're landing lights Mick can we test this right because if I were what yeah we could
calm all right I win this counts great video for what we need Merrick Mick this was awesome I
appreciate you guys both things you're doing this Mick thank you yeah it is this is great I mean
so we're back with Mick and Merrick and uh we felt compelled to extend our debate somewhat
with mick it's not your standard saucer it's not your or it's not your sphere or the the stuff that
Mick i think you figured out one of those is post in first but this is the the quote unquote a
the bottom line is no experts agree with mick and the literally the the one of the top infrared
ufos work i don't think so mick and i i hope we learn more but but the pentagonist said that they
Jet Mick and I just quickly, I will shut up after this.
Jet Mick and I pin you down.
I said I think Mick is right, but for the wrong reason.
So, Mick Merrick, appreciate you guys.