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Yeah, one of the, what they call the insectoids.

My biggest strength actually is accessing people mentally.

Well, hey, that's an honor for me.

Well, it's an honor for me to be here today.

This one other sergeant wanted the job.

I wanted the job.

He wanted that job.

Congress said, no, that's mind control and wouldn't fund it.

So he took me out to Fort Meade and had that remote viewing unit.

And I took to it like duck to water.

I mean, it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen.

And it said that Adolf Hitler had had a unit called Dr. Grunbaum in Germany and that it did medical experiments on the Jews and all this.

But one part of it was also psychic spying.

When the Germans lost the war, the French, English, and the Americans didn't want any of this psychic stuff, you know.

So the Russians took it and they had developed it.

Well, by the 1960s, we were losing classified information like crazy.

And they couldn't find any ground agents.

They couldn't find anybody.

And that's when Igor Pankovsky tried to defect and brought the documentation that said the Russians had been doing that.

Everybody had a laugh about that.

But the intelligence service doesn't laugh.

And you got to go.

They're selling it.

This is the last thing that anyone working on anything sensitive wants in their life.

I was never tasked with that.

So I never really went into it.

I've never been tasked to do so.

I didn't get a chance to go up there.

For his own little compound.

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I haven't talked about this to anybody.

I may as well do it in air.

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I am on retention.

What were they doing?

Basically, what I got for most of them was minerals.

But there was no need for personnel there, so it was basically kind of empty of people.

And so he called a friend of his working in there in Australia and asked him if anything was going on.

But I mean, after accessing him every single day.

Because your eyes, I'm looking at them right now, you have beautiful eyes.

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For example, I've learned the hard way that comfortable clothing usually means comfortable for 15 minutes and then spending the rest of the day subtly irritated.

He was a psychic.

That's when you know you've got it.

So then you go to what's, that's called stage one.

And there's one step beyond that, which we call perfect site integration.

I'm a Texas boy.

I take my shoes off, you know.

So I guess about six months later, we were out at a place in California visiting.

And I said, oh, okay.

But when I saw that picture, that's when I realized, hey, I was on Mars.

And, uh, you know, I cannot physically, I cannot say I've ever been physically on Mars.

But I have had the experience, the real experience of walking through the sands of Mars.

And how are you going to explain that to anybody?

I've had the experience of it.

Did you see any alien life?

Actually, I did.

Um, uh, because the monitor took me elsewhere after that.

Um, and, and so where did you go after that, where you saw alien life?

Um, down into the pyramid.

And, uh, it was, um, it was beings that are much larger than humans, but, uh, with atrophied limbs, probably incapable of ever coming out, you know?

Well, right at first they looked to me like worms.

For the audience.

Well, I also had an abduction experience, too.

Like no research goes on there.

There's a two-star and you've got a sergeant saying no, sir.

So, 1980, three different U.S. Air Force sergeants, Jim Penniston, John Burroughs, I'm blanking on the third guy's name, all come across this.

This was different.

I forget who it came from.

He sort of, he was this emergency medical doctor.

And then he developed CE5, this protocol to sort of call in UFOs.

You know, he turned to me and got up in my face and said, did you kill my computers with your mind?

I don't know if it's in that place where, that big warehouse where, at the end of the Indiana Jones movie.

The task was compare and contrast our psychic ability with the ET psychic ability.

They don't like us.

Well, in the viewing of Mount Zeal.

Have you ever seen a UFO in the possession of the American military?

Now, this was a country church.

We were over a quarter mile off the nearest road in the woods and all that.

And immediately I woke up.

Anyway, we landed at some place that was not Earth.

And they were going up this path to a pavilion that was up on the hill.

Well, he grabbed me by the arm.

And, uh, so she said, did you check the basement?

Yes, I checked the basement.

And so, I thought, telepathic overlay, they're just reading my mind.

I looked back at the interrogator and grinned.

from your place in,

when I was 12 and 15,

to collect intelligence.

when that happened,

come across a guy

religious figures

in your experience

with remote viewing?

ETs or anything like that.

tasked with looking

Absolutely, yeah.

Which one of those?

I think we already

one of my fortes

personality profiles

getting the plans

of foreign leaders.

personality profile

is just where you

give a personality

I went over one day

we have a personality

profile for you.

but we were there,

And I thought, how in the world can you make your own tools?

In 1998, they didn't have 3D printers.

Oh, yeah, ahead of time, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I got it right.

Described everything, even the purpose, how it happened, and everything else.

And your conviction level on that is.

One of the things was.

You never met him.

Do you have any theories as to.

The ambiance exercise makes you sensitive to the world around you.

I think we kind of went all over the place here.

Controlled remote viewing.

Kind of classified.

But you were given access to that.

This was awesome.

I really appreciate all you.

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