a return guest on American Alchemy.
And then my colleague, Dave Altman, who is the media manager for Vasco,
with people who think, no, it's just plate defects.
You're trying to see systematics in plate defects.
Of what was in the sky.
Yeah, exactly.
So, and for the audience, so you're basically showing that the Earth's shadow would not, obviously, a solar reflection wouldn't show up there.
Exactly.
So a real object, you know, that was in the way of the sun, you would get a solar reflection.
However, I think that they don't do it themselves.
It's something to be filtered out.
Do we know that these are the same thing?
I have no idea.
along with Blue Book Lead Captain Edward J. Ruppelt's analysis and more.
UFOs are consistently described as light-reflecting, luminous, shiny, metallic objects,
Of course, you're going to have a lot of pitfalls, things that can go wrong.
into UFOs for a very long time and have long known about this connection between UFOs and
nuclear detonations.
grade wavelengths to boost skin cell energy production.
There's some British tests in Australia.
And then the U.S. tests in New Mexico and in the Pacific.
So the things that are—and this is all pretty obvious, but the transients were identified using an automated system.
It's not true AI, but it was an automated process conducted by a computer.
So I know there's real transients in these days when the nuclear tests happened.
But the debunk of it is, is it something local to the observatory, right?
That was kind of odd to think about.
I don't know what that means, but that was intriguing.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what happened in 56 or 57.
I believe that was 56, 57.
If it's like 90%, I might be a little more, okay, let's do the error correction, you know?
I think the best way to think about that is something that Beatrice has talked about, which is when she looks at the transients and where they are and calculates which transients are in sunlight and which are in shadow.
So it's really maybe up to 25% or something.
I don't know what the right mental model is.
waiting to reach out at any moment.
One may recall a relevant scene in Carl Sagan's classic novel Contact, which follows SETI astronomer, Ellie Arroway,
as she intercepts a genuine extraterrestrial signal sent from aliens in the Vega star system.
In a wild plot twist, the initial contents of the message come as some shock.
Hitler's speech at the 1936 Olympics was Earth's first-ever television broadcast to break through the ionosphere and reach space.
So in the novel, Hitler is also the first representative of humanity the Vega civilization sees.
Not exactly a good first look.
In a manner just like Bracewell's concept, the Vega aliens decide to respond by bouncing Hitler's speech back to its initial source,
encoding instructions inside of it to build an interstellar wormhole device.
It's worth remembering that the solar system is a very big place.
Okay, but Jesse, isn't this episode supposed to be all about hard data?
Sometimes up to 30 seconds later.
The methods we develop will be out.
Someone else who might have better methods than me might use the same ideas for the earth's shadow alignments, pre-Sputnik plates, combine them, and maybe we'll find a really great support for what they say.
Jacques would later recount realizing that scientists were human beings like the rest of us.
When their reputations were threatened, when their ideas were challenged, they reacted by eliminating the data.