And you have a national security state, headed up by people like Don Menzel,
But at the time, she was kind of an assistant professor, I think, for Don Menzel at Harvard, at their observatory.
And she talked about Don Menzel, who is basically as prominent in UFO lore as any astronomer or astrophysicist there is, who was privy to classified Navy and, you know, all sorts of data, military data.
And then, like, connect that now, the story with Don Menzel, to the fact that the Vera Rubin telescope is going to remove a lot of classified satellites and other objects.