But he was part of it as well as like, again, a list of other people, like in all areas, right?

And he had, I mean, Aldous Huxley would go to the Roundtable Foundation, right?

But it sounds like fundamentally he's a believer in extrasensory perception, psychic abilities, right?

To make a long story short, there's a seance that's held in, uh, late 52, early 53. I think it was the New Year's Eve of 52 to 53. And there are nine people involved in the seance. Now, these are not just some casual nine people you pick up, like, you know, your neighbors or something, right? This was a DuPont and an Astor and a Forbes. I mean, everybody that represents the, the blue blooded Brahmins of American society, old money people, were at a seance, a free

Is that Arthur Young? Arthur Young. So Arthur Young is there with his wife. His wife is Ruth Forbes Payne Young. Right. She had a lot of names. She was excessively nomenclatured. And so you have, you know, Ruth Forbes Payne Young. She's a Forbes.

But to finish the nine thing, basically, the roundtable ends in 57, I think, right?

But I think he's mostly known as somebody who, uh, did experiments with implanting, putting an implant in the head of a bull and basically being able to remote control a bull and basically say, go this stop, go left, go right.

It's basically about this idea of the fabrication of alien abductions, right?

He's doing an electron and, you know, you can just tell something's going on, something strange. And so you're right.

Of course we learned he was using it with the space kids years later that nobody knew about that, but, um, so he's the, he's coming off the tail end of all the in Electron stuff. Right. Right. When he meets Geller, like literally it was 1970 is when he first hears about Geller goes to Israel.

how i got there right and then geller himself said oh yeah no he he was sent by the cia like directly

and oh actually yeah you're right it is and that kind of thing but what's so confusing is there's

particularly powerful as far as implanting thoughts is that right yeah there's uh and again this was

1973 i think he claims he's walking down the street in new york city gets a weird feeling right all of a

question us again and they did this teleportation right and the weird thing is again like the length

not from here he says you're right this is a piece of a ufo that crashed on our planet uh it's over it's

find another subject to bring through the nine he claims so this is even pre phyllis schlemer is right

the moon right they didn't know the surface of the moon what it would would be like really so they

mean and bentoff died in a plane crash yeah that's right yeah sort of super mysteriously he was uh

or they would you know go into the room and the the the drawers but oh you know poltergeist stuff right

you know a lot of people who go into a trance or hypnosis you know there's there's a protocol right

these trips but they would literally have a session right with the nine and they would do group sessions

stairway right for this window where my father allegedly fell down and they found him right at the

completely paranoid or somebody who's just totally telling the truth well it's right before he fell down

leading up to why he believes they're they're out to get him basically right but um yeah coincidentally

of um there were a couple like the classic you know right now there's a ufo that's sort of hovering over

and it says valerie randstone like describes her ufo um experience you can go anyone can go right now

had this ufo experience at this time in this location so she's shocked right so then she says

right around the time i was trying to um try to track down valerie he reaches out to me and he's like

like very recently like bobby ray inman yeah i know a lot of people are talking about right now i called