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All these people conducting this seance were bringing in these nine maybe extraterrestrial

beings, maybe beings that go to the nine Egyptian gods, but it's like a council.

And there are specifically nine Egyptian gods.

We nine and our will.

The very first time that I heard about the nine was through Dr. Vinod.

They call themselves, these beings, the nine.

But what is the nine?

The part of Buharic's story where I think things sort of change in his life is when, you know, this instance happens when they first channel the nine, which was in 52.

And he goes into a trance and he just starts speaking, you know, saying, you know, we are the nine and where we're coming through to you now.

But that's how the story goes of how the nine first appear as basically this guy, Vinod.

The nine first comes through, through this guy.

But basically, so what did the nine say?

But just for the audience real quick, because I know we're getting into what the nine said.

So what are the nine saying?

This, you know, goes on way through the 70s when Buharic, the nine come back.

That would, the nine, meaning Vinod in a trance, speaking as the nine.

They would say the nine, they would say, you know, okay, look, you're contacting us through a psychic.

So they were basically like following instructions from the nine.

And Phyllis Schlamer, who later wrote the only planet of choice, which channels the nine.

I think she talks about the nine with respect to messages around the earth being a bottleneck of consciousness.

And like other planets being more ascended and these nine really trying to help raise consciousness on earth, which might sort of sound like a cliche, but.

There's some, seems like there's some sort of correlation there. The connection Lavenda makes is that all these people conducting the seance, bringing in these nine, maybe extraterrestrial beings, maybe beings that go to the

nine Egyptian, uh, gods or whatever. We don't exactly know what these nine beings are, but it's like a council. And, and later the nine praise plays prominently because this channel or Phyllis Schlamer, uh, like gets all these messages from the nine along with a lot of the kids and stuff.

To make a long story short, there's a seance that's held in, uh, late 52, early 53. I think it was the New Year's Eve of 52 to 53. And there are nine people involved in the seance. Now, these are not just some casual nine people you pick up, like, you know, your neighbors or something, right? This was a DuPont and an Astor and a Forbes. I mean, everybody that represents the, the blue blooded Brahmins of American society, old money people, were at a seance, a free

And so it's these weird entanglements where, and the nine believed themselves to be sort of agents,

be bringing about world peace and that the nine would speak to him through his watch and stuff.

But to finish the nine thing, basically, the roundtable ends in 57, I think, right?

But so the nine stopped, allegedly.

But a lot of the early nine-related conspiracies start around that time, too, with this idea

And a lot of people think that that was like the nine.

But he, uh, he, uh, has this whole episode in Israel before he even brings him back to the United States, where he basically hypnotizes Geller and, you know, the nine come through.

Uh, he starts channeling the nine, Uri Geller.

The whole nine thing comes back into the picture through, through Uri Geller.

And so one could assume that Uri Geller was a, you know, experiment in that way when the nine just so happened to reappear all those years later.

the nine again is it like the nine are somehow like he has a protocol to like summon these specific nine

this idea of nine extraterrestrial beings or what do you think that is is he is he calling in something

that exists in reality these nine you know entities or is he creating those entities synthetically

okay who's who's telling the truth you know yeah i think it's obvious but um right with the nine i mean

this and it was it was it was that it was very leading questions and are you sure it's not the nine

you know not leading at all and the nine would still come through yeah so that's interesting yeah

geller oh yeah this happened and the nine did this basically you since you were questioning their

he ends up nine being transported nine miles um away from the base uh like behind a dam and it's

find another subject to bring through the nine he claims so this is even pre phyllis schlemer is right

through the nine but before phyllis there was this guy in florida where phyllis was from she knew this guy

sure enough he puts him he he hypnotizes him and he is communicating with not the nine but it was some other

know the original channeling of the nine it was 52. do you know what month uh it was it was um

channeling the nine and roddenberry is there and it's like an hour or two hours of him asking questions

had started i think it would i think people think of deep space nine uh-huh which that came out post

these sessions and um that you know of course nine and then there's a character in deep space nine who's

called vanod just like the early nine channeler so there's no question like that that's connected

story but gene roddenberry wrote a script called the nine and it's all about his he changed the names

nine and we have an original copy of it and it's like amazing and from what we understand like

page script about about his experience and it's called the nine so trippy yeah and you have so we

mention anything about the nine too or who ashed no i thought maybe okay not specifically okay but um

of went through the different abilities tested them and and that all led to getting back to the nine

you know not and so all the kids that had an experience he would hypnotize them and allegedly the nine would

come through even through these kids who most of which never knew about about the nine and and most of which were

do you think that the nine coming through these different experiencers abductees people who've seen

to puharic's house in ossining heard all about the nine and that puharic was apparently communicating

with this thing called the nine wild and then didn't really say much has hal put off never talked about

is a uh is from sri to lab nine who hearts his lab from 73 whoa we brought it up to put off he said

lab nine which again like intellektron and a couple others he had which are no use getting into but he

he had lab nine and i think that lab nine was doing sri research you know on on children because essentially

it's either like a pendulum or whatever it is a countdown and i think the nine and and something

somehow like this we're going to connect with the nine thing was like a way that these it was an in

the effect a long time ago of like the nine was basically just like this sandbox for us to

or some analogy like that where the nine is basically just like

connection to sri via some sort of pay stub going directly to lab nine and you've got all these young

do you think that this council of nine were real you know extraterrestrial or non-human beings

communicating through these space kids or do you think the nine was being implanted and they were testing

their ability to sort of manipulate thoughts and that was through the nine or whatever and they had some

the nine and whatever it's some protocol and it sounds like a hypnotic technique yeah but then some

seem super open-ended and they just seem to connect with the nine how do you sort of make sense of that

you know typical okay the nine um the you know the world is beautiful we need to save humanity etc etc

know the nine again like i just keep thinking i think about it a lot and i again like the the answer just

interesting is that um and you see in the film like getting back to this idea of the nine being this

these trips but they would literally have a session right with the nine and they would do group sessions

and so forth but um in that time they're getting messages from the nine saying you know you need to go to

nine said you have to go here you have to go there and so he kind of hints at like well what was that

really the nine or once again was puharic involved in something else that he had to be in these areas

at this time you know under the auspices that this was a psychic you know this was the nine

high-ranking government people and it's all just oh hey the nine told us to come here so we're here

questions if that's what you're supposed to be doing talking to the nine but to go back to the the the

the egyptian god like so you know that's not and there are nine there are specifically nine egyptian

right because the nine are saying you have to go here you have to go to this location to meditate this

channeling the nine you know in your lab you're going to dc to meet with all these people but

channeling that would be like apparently the nine you know saying that saying this through them yeah

of the nine at face value how would you characterize these nine beings in what they want for humanity

well what did the space kids think do they think that they were genuinely tapping into nine you know

were talking in the nine we're committing with the nine we were it was a good time we were young we were

lab lab lab nine and in 78 and she is very there's nothing there about her there's nothing out there

have in the puharach archives of her at lab nine um and you know yeah she was very good looking so that

nine um and she brought gordon cooper there and then she disappeared and everyone who knew her was

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