I don't know what it did exactly or, you know, what like, yeah, the day-to-day or anything.
And this is something like, I don't think is really out there.
I mean, we don't have to get into that now.
Well, I don't know a whole lot about it, but I just, that kind of rang a bell where I'm like, oh yeah, he wrote about that.
nine Egyptian, uh, gods or whatever. We don't exactly know what these nine beings are, but it's like a council. And, and later the nine praise plays prominently because this channel or Phyllis Schlamer, uh, like gets all these messages from the nine along with a lot of the kids and stuff.
And so I wonder sometimes, was it all good or was it bad? I mean, I don't think, you know,
I mean, even I don't know.
I just don't, you know, I know what was in the archives.
Like Don, I guess there's, I remember watching it, but there's some reference, like they live in Ossining.
And so that I think the connection, I mean, I don't want to just jump to conclusions, but I think what I've often thought with this JFK thing and why to Melanie his assistant seemed like such a big deal is that it may have had some tie in with a mind control, sort of like a Sirhan Sirhan situation with Lee Harvey Oz.
This is, we're talking, and again, this is something I don't think a lot of people know.
And I think people don't realize a lot of that MKUltra stuff happened much earlier, but they were doing this work in 62, 63 of like send, basically sending messages to, to people's heads, you know, and, and we have footage.
The people from the Atomic Energy Commission write very clearly in letters we found, like we went, Annie Jacobson talks about it, I think in her book, like one of the guys is like, I don't believe you, you know, test me and just, and, and, and did the test on himself and it worked.
I mean, there's some people I met during the process of this who were like, don't, don't even go there and don't talk about the connection you had with Delgado.
It's one of those things you don't even want to think about it.
I don't have a document that says here's the experiment we did, but, um, that whole decade of the sixties was such a, a, a, a odd decade for Buharachi was so like quiet.
And there's even a book called, I don't know if you know about this book, the controllers by Martin Cannon.
And we're worried because they want to put him in a mental hospital and we don't want that to happen.
In the early nineties around messages he's downloading, but it, maybe it does beget the question, you know, is the Sherman stuff genuinely, you know, extraterrestrial or were people beaming messages that were extraterrestrial to test the veracity of the messaging or whatever through him. And I don't know, you know, I don't know the answer to that question. I don't think he was lying. And I think the program is real.
You're right. I mean, I think like if that was happening in 60, 61, 62, I mean, I don't know. And this gets transitions into the Uri Geller stuff, which I believe is very much involved in that same sort of research.
He did bend a spoon for us when we did the interview and I don't know how he did it.
But what people don't really know, uh, unless they read Buharic's book on, on Uri Geller, which is kind of like a rare book to, to come across.
again i there's i don't have a document or something that that that proves this um and then puhart also
of it it's either true or for some reason he's making it up i don't know why it's fascinating so so
but uh it's strange and i i don't know i mean again that's something like after all this time
puharic went to to actually get a look you know again people don't remember this was like 70s like
i don't because again there's no concrete proof oh geller was a guinea pig he was he was a subject like
they said oh you know we don't know what you're talking about we this we weren't involved with
the film does a good job of this or i hope it does is you know i don't believe or and especially don't
ultra experiment on his family you know decades after now all this stuff so so yeah i don't want to put
new year's eve okay well i mean it was before then because the so the the again i don't want to engage
claims this i've never heard it we don't have the tape but he claims that they before they went to
were saying okay how can we land a craft what we don't could it be hot is it gonna is it cold is it
moon and and he and he had the contracts of nasa like we don't we have one that doesn't say that but
i don't i don't know much about that i mean i know about obviously buchars we can get into that but
there's like a nasa thing with kids but i honestly i don't know i think gordon cooper might
mean why was a nasa astronaut interested in psychic research um i don't know i mean well i think coop
and they actually wrote uh i have it and um i don't know what will ever come of it it's a it's a long
roddenberry at the time was going through a lot with like i guess he was like drinking a lot and i don't
they were they were good friends uh i don't know the specifics of how they met apparently uh bentoff was
you know instrumental in hooking up uh puhart with geller i don't know the truth to that but um
deliberate maybe we're not supposed to have found anything but we don't have any sort of like legitimate
because we don't have the definitive answer of what's going on we just have all this
it uh i don't know maybe it's been taken down but it was this radio interview from 2019 and he he was
there's that i mean i i don't think he's he's making that up no i think it was like all these
these videos directed at world leaders so yeah trump don't push that button or putin stand down
stage magician and he's you know i don't i don't know how legit he is he often said you know and i think
can you perform at every instance someone asks you i mean no i'm not a i mean i i don't i don't
puharic uh i think it's i don't want to say synthetically created i think what was going on
um so i don't know i wasn't there at the interview someone else did it i mean he it was great he did
oh i don't who knows it could have just it's whatever it's nothing basically but to me that that proves he
whose name i i don't i won't mention um she she basically admitted that where she said something to
would go back it's very deflating i'm sure for a lot of the ufo well it is and again like i don't want
well i don't know and that goes back to the kind of you know i think uh jeffrey mishlove brings this
of the et phenomena or was it just all mk ultra you know and again i don't think it was all mk ultra
but i think he got sort of under the thumb of the uh you know intelligence world early on and i just don't
like you don't just leave and when you're when you're that involved as he was you know just say hey
like a big part of that that research i don't think he wanted to do i think he he in a way was forced to
with him because i again like i don't want to um come come across as someone who's trying to like
is i don't know but what i've heard and what i've had access to that came directly from his personal
admits like that is what was going on with him yeah well he warns future researchers basically like don't
lot of speculation but at the end of the day like those people don't haven't seen the materials
maybe on on a mission and hey you know don't screw around kind of thing i think there was a lot of
bottom of the stairs we don't really know um what killed him
a lot of this psychic stuff was real and to this day they don't know what happened to him
because you know you could imagine these people like don't want to and again this is what you
for people that don't know sarfati is a physicist who is pretty well respected and studied under you
some sort of you know alien intelligence but um i don't know if you remember his part of the story
overall i think what people don't realize about the 50s is like there's a letter between i think it's
think like the journals that mentioned brown and these others like i don't think these were sort of
needs to take them i don't trust giving them my children for their safety and so i think this is
researched them all he met with dulles i don't i guess i didn't mention that wild he there's he's
so was this instance with jaime and the finger something to do with that what was it not i don't
idea where that content is coming from um i don't know yeah yeah it's strange because
now i don't know enough um so i don't want to go too much into it but there's a guy his name is oliver
positive time and they want to they don't want to go down the negative path or they don't maybe want
to accept that the negative path may maybe you know the reality and i don't i mean i would probably do
to maybe think at least okay something else was going on what was it you know we don't we don't know for
rocket launches in the late 70s that actually did occur which i don't i don't know you have to look
i don't remember but it was some program that she like ran in dc and as part of the nixon administration
and uh i don't know if they ever will because i've certainly tried hard to and apparently she's still
so trippy yeah and there's a guy a kit green he um i mean i don't even care anymore at this point
valerie ranson really well and that he was like i don't know much about him again i'm not trying to
cover because i'm like nervous or anything i i genuinely don't really know i just know i've
working with her which i don't know what that means exactly but he was very i mean there's something
uh and like basically like don't talk me again and anything revolving that name i can't be associated
that stuff i don't really know like what his he's he's deeply involved in like i think the whatever cia
with with somebody for information and a lot of reasons that these men in particular don't want to
talk about her is you know i don't need to say it maybe something happened now they're married
they don't want to go there maybe that's why it's this very standoffish thing which i can get
was this one theory is that she was kind of like getting information um on behalf of who i don't know
like that but um the really weird thing is i don't know if you've seen it there's there's allegedly an
you think they were like they just again didn't want to i don't know but it's just it's so goes
like yeah i have no idea what happened to her or they're just straight up don't want to talk about
her i don't know it's really bizarre she wrote some book that's basically all this like channeled
great lengths to try to locate her nothing does this people don't want to like valerie they don't want
montauk long island does this add to your conviction that i don't know you hear all these things around
my opinion i think i don't think it's all a psyop i think that some of these autistic non-verbal
or something i don't know i mean i think i certainly think this film is going to help you know put some
mean i don't know like i talked to a kid who claimed he was part of the gate program and i won't say
don't know what's i don't know what to believe yeah you know with that so it's just i don't know i'm in
the same i'm in the same boat as you i don't know what what the motives may be but i think that