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We have tape recordings of him meditating in the king's chamber.

And you've made this amazing documentary on him.

And they saw something in him all the way back in 47 when he was a medical student.

And he very rarely, in fact, I've never even heard him mention this in all the stuff I've listened to and read about him.

And they just saw something in him.

You could do an episode on him.

But he sort of took Puharich under his wing and, from what I understand, was the first person who introduced him to, you know, whatever weird science, if you want to call it that.

Like, he was always getting sort of like, we have letters from like, CIA and stuff back then, who were kind of going to him with questions and so forth.

And somehow we found this like, big stash of archives of his that, again, were these letters from CIA and the Navy and everything, sort of, I guess, wanting to recruit him.

You know, he's, I work with him.

I mean, they were just like flocking to this place, basically giving him money to do research.

But on the cover of that book, you know, Aldous Huxley gives a blurb for Buharic and calls him, you know, the greatest mind in parapsychology.

And that maybe what Jesus underwent was some sort of kind of pagan mystery ritual that allowed him to sort of gain the magical powers that he achieved in the book of Acts.

I mean, there's thousands of pages, literally, of transcripts of what they recorded with him.

But that's what we know about him.

And then when Vinod leaves, eventually, I think 54, he goes back and it never talks about him again.

In fact, I tape recorded an interview with him.

But he recorded an interview with him.

He spent a whole day with him.

So that's wild that Russell spent a whole day with him.

They were, they were telling him and constructing him how to like build the Faraday cage in a specific way that would like help this transmission.

She whipped out this bracelet she had that was like a copper, a little copper plate on this bracelet that she said, like they all had to wear when they were doing their channeling sessions with him decades later.

She gets him the job at the Texas School Book Depository.

be bringing about world peace and that the nine would speak to him through his watch and stuff.

And starting in, I think, 63, basically she worked with him, I think until like the mid-80s.

But she met him in New York.

office, said something to him that seemed very serious.

But there were specific people who needed him to move to New York.

And we have all the documents that we found that prove that they went and visited him.

They gave him this grant.

Again, almost everyone that was involved at the round table was back in this intellectron situation with him.

And then this weird incident where they seem to make a big deal about telling him about the assassination at that exact time, that exact year, they're researching ways to, to be able to send messages to someone's mind to do something specific, Manchurian candidate, et cetera, et cetera.

It was like some neuro linguistic programming was coming through him to this day.

To this day does not remember having shot him.

He's like, you know, I must kill him, must kill, you know, sort of thing.

And we're worried because they want to put him in a mental hospital and we don't want that to happen.

So, you know, can you check him out?

So they, they bring him in, they get to know him and he says, okay, I work at this metal factory where I guess it basically is a grinding metal pieces and this kind of thing.

In the early nineties around messages he's downloading, but it, maybe it does beget the question, you know, is the Sherman stuff genuinely, you know, extraterrestrial or were people beaming messages that were extraterrestrial to test the veracity of the messaging or whatever through him. And I don't know, you know, I don't know the answer to that question. I don't think he was lying. And I think the program is real.

I want to study him.

So he brings him back.

But he, uh, he, uh, has this whole episode in Israel before he even brings him back to the United States, where he basically hypnotizes Geller and, you know, the nine come through.

Have you found any connections between him?

um well he so we did tons of like foia uh requests trying to trying to find stuff on him

he's going there to see geller so that that there's that and then um multiple people who knew him

kind of helped him with bookkeeping and stuff and she was like his closest confidant and he would

went to to to investigate geller but you know he was even through the 80s like well after him and

yariv who was i think the head of army intelligence very you can look him up i mean he was constantly

re can should we uh give this information to yariv always referring to him and other people

you can very much hear him saying you know is is it the not you know the type of like leading

guinea pig for these experiments because it's it's just too many weird red flags around this time that he meets him

saying that buharic had experimented on him with with mushrooms and had experimented extensively with

him uh uh with with hypnosis but again like that story is crazy and he and i think it's like okay like

story too that geller tells around him meeting warner von braun and warner von braun taking him to a safe

about who made the jfk comment said yeah he he talked to him you know all the time why so that was

something to the effect of yeah he showed him um some photographs of um of yeah something from roswell

or revealed or facts to him and i think he showed him material and i think he felt like he had a

like he he knew that it was not from here or something like he showed it to him and he goes it's not from

sort of like b2 bomber was like kind of winking at him in the distance he and his um uh you know um

beings walking toward him saying do not fear do not fear and then he gets a hypnotic regression and he

him now said that there was some sort of ambient radiation in his mouth or something from that time

but there's this guy that she knew she introduces him to buharic uh they do a bunch of experiments yeah

sure enough he puts him he he hypnotizes him and he is communicating with not the nine but it was some other

run in and grab this bulky vhs camcorder but apparently like him that bulharic's son and two or

even his cousin who didn't want to be interviewed or everybody did talk to him and he was like yeah

get him to join and he he didn't want anything to do with it and that kind of thing well werner von

the guy who spent longer in the earth's orbit you know in space than anyone prior to him he went in the

channeling the nine and roddenberry is there and it's like an hour or two hours of him asking questions

oh yeah who's you know a really interesting guy um there's some videos on youtube with him he's kind

of like the israeli puhart he he kind of looks like him and you know they have the same vibe going on but

lot at that time and he was always tape recording their conversations like him and bentoff would sit

sign too of the whole geller thing being like i mentioned earlier like him being involved maybe

helped me he helped me get to the to america um so it's not like he's he hates him or he speak but he

mentions being pretty sure that uh buharic had slipped him the mushrooms so you know

they even have like a uh some papers where they studied him at princeton and yeah i think it's

know yeah i that's really actually my again with everything i said prior to him potentially being the

sixty percent of the time yeah but i think that about him because i've heard enough stories

and apparently it was because they saw him on tv and and something happened something clicked and they

maybe 18 youngest but they would see him at a at a lecture and they would they would approach him and

who knows about this and and i need your help basically like they would kind of go to him

this no i mean in the film he does i gotta ask him but um he basically just tells a story about

he sort of alludes to that but he does say yeah we went up to his house there's footage of him and

was connected because i think the story most people read is just like he brought geller dropped him off

about him and his story is like i think he believed i know he believed in in a lot of paranormal stuff

i'm i'm i'm good you know and i so i think that there was a lot of pressure on him to do some of this

him out there i mean there's tons of it have you read the stargate chron conspiracy the book it's

with him because i again like i don't want to um come come across as someone who's trying to like

put him out there because i'm not i mean like i got to know his family really well i'm like very close

frankly think makes him like interesting and an interesting subject for a film because like he's complicated

admits like that is what was going on with him yeah well he warns future researchers basically like don't

where it would be like you know two people at puharic and two other people him and three other people

him and six other people and that would apparently like bring the message through more strongly and

thinks a psychic is telling him oh just let him go what what a kook and meanwhile he's you know

gods so that was something he was like obsessive about he would he we have tape recordings of him

like again there's no mind manipulation dark stuff going on there it's it's it's very clearly him like i'm going to meditate in the king's chamber

he shouldn't have done that and you know you think they took him out as a result maybe of that

stairway right for this window where my father allegedly fell down and they found him right at the

bottom of the stairs we don't really know um what killed him

apparently and he they lived with him and he was still like you know doing stuff with them or whatever

basically harm him and take him out he claimed again this is either like the work of someone

know basically out to get him and that they installed this elf uh emitter in his television set

on him on him yeah i mean if again if this were to be believed which i quite frankly do believe

leading up to why he believes they're they're out to get him basically right but um yeah coincidentally

on behalf of the cia to talk to him as a guy we know was involved in cia who's that this guy named bob

who uh there's a great film shout out to um ida my friend he made this great film about him

a lot of this psychic stuff was real and to this day they don't know what happened to him

you say there's something so bizarre yeah grinberg the the whole thing about him is like he realized

we live in a matrix and then he left the matrix or something like but what's interesting about him

agency and they're using him and you know what's crazy is uh on some random message board uh this

them seeing him as a liability late in life you know maybe he feels remorse about some of the things

like him and his kind of group of physicists people would go up there it was just kind of really yeah

stuff yeah and um he uh says he gets a call from the future and then and then you know they tell him

you did you ever ask him point blank hey jack like was any of your stuff do you think it was seeded by

being a possibility as far as he is yeah but i just remember him bringing up that name and in in

everybody about this well in one of his journals it was just uh him recounting like he would often go to

and spending the day with him and it's very brief unfortunate actually maybe we could do this together

something like spent the afternoon with him to disgust a lot or something like this i know some kid

met him and this was again i'm positive it was 53 was that that journal so yeah he was going there um

the audience will give me because i talk about him all the time but i think he's like the godfather

comes to intelligence and there's a telegram from um him to josephine who's townsend brown's wife

she got up and she went over to him and she touched his forehead with her finger and when she did that

him beaming the message right now there is a ufo you know above our head or is it like

telling me the atomic energy commission gave him money they gave him like over a million dollars yeah

through tones through sound and he was like again so complex i can barely understand it but him and

is that true yeah what yeah albert einstein said like riser is he had some quote about him being

works and so him and puharic were um exchanging a lot of letters about like you know do you have

up role in the army but anyways he was very very connected his pictures of him with like every you

know president during the 60s 70s like there was a tape of him saying like i met valerie ranson in the

that or he was connected to a lot of like weird stuff basically and it was very little on him

about saying stuff like this like he i was talking to him for a while and he was like yeah i can't be

valerie ranson really well and that he was like i don't know much about him again i'm not trying to

heard a lot about him being like a dog like a person who helps like abductee people who claim

yeah the kit green thing again i'm not i did talk to him i'm not trying to throw him under the bus i

him and what do you have and we should we should talk and and that kind of thing this one guy weirdly

from him again i look him up on facebook and again i may maybe i'm crazy and this stuff has gotten

him because because he was uh head of uh naval intelligence i think during this exact time um that

and i just just called him straight up and i introduced myself how'd you get his number

like hello and it was him it was one of them oh my god and he was pretty nice but i just straight up

been something like on him that's out there is um exciting for me obviously so yeah i think it'll

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