The very first time that I heard about the nine was through Dr. Vinod.
Dr. Vinod had become a channel for a civilization somewhere out there from outer space.
But it all started with this guy, Vinod.
But that's how the story goes of how the nine first appear as basically this guy, Vinod.
But mostly Vinod.
So the interesting thing about this guy, Dr. Vinod was his name.
And so Vinod, like I only really discovered a couple years into it, but he was an interesting guy.
And then when Vinod leaves, eventually, I think 54, he goes back and it never talks about him again.
That would, the nine, meaning Vinod in a trance, speaking as the nine.
And all of a sudden, after however many years, you know, 53 from when Dr. Vinod did it to, to 71.