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Like looking into whether mid-century scientist Thomas Townsend Brown cracked anti-gravity in the 1950s.

The mid-century anti-gravity inventor, Thomas Townsend Brown,

brown stuff and dielectrics. Yeah. We'll get to that.

Thomas Townsend Brown doing a lot of spooky science work for the Navy. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. And then you

we're, we'll get into our mutual interest in Thomas Townsend Brown and anti-gravity experiments.

one thing that is true about the Bifield Brown effect and this anti-gravity experiment is that

you know, I guess barium is actually in Townsend Brown's documents. Like he talks about it all the

And strontium is also mentioned in Brown stuff, I believe, or.

easier by creating these high dielectrics, which involve greater thrust in the byfield brown effect.

It's just so fascinating and it's fascinating that you're into towns and Brown too.

RAND Corporation also happened to be intensely interested in the gravity-manipulating deep space propulsion work of Townsend Brown.

mind that make the Bifield Brown effect. Like you're interested in these anti-gravity experiments

Yeah. Well, the, um, yeah, it's, um, yeah, since 2007, since I first read about Bifield Brown.

least 10, 20% above what could be achieved by iron flow. Mm. Which is exactly what Brown said.

And so for the audience, Townsend Brown is this mid century, very mysterious, uh, inventor who started

It's a really big deal. And the thing about Brown. As we almost know, we know for a fact that

Brown's work. And so like, I think there is so much smoke. There's a Japanese experiment

super into Townsend Brown. I was like, what does this is going to be the best interview ever?

Well, yeah, I really enjoyed your, I call it your Byfield Brown special. I don't know if that's

what you, I'll take it. Yeah. Let's call it the Byfield Brown special. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you.

Well, well, kudos to you for being in the Townsend Brown in 2007, because, uh, the Man Who

away from the project, but 2007, like you're talking about Townsend Brown being on the dark corners of the

anti-gravity and he, he talks about microwave beam propulsion alongside Townsend Brown's Byfield

Brown effect. And, you know, he's a really brilliant guy. He had his own theory called, uh, uh,

history of, you know, arrow engine tech since world war two. And then he gets to Townsend Brown and he

goes with Townsend Brown, like, you know, I will refrain from talking about, you know, leading edges

Sure. Yeah, no. And it's crazy that you were, I mean, Gordon Brown, uh, David Cameron,

And I really hope you pull off this Byfield Brown effect. I think it would be this beautiful

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