It's been a couple years since you and I recorded those two podcasts when you had a moment of contact out
Was it years later?
22 years later 23 years later. I finished the movie Tim was living in Egypt and he reached out to me
Could have never in a hundred million years
But obviously us all talking a less you and me behind the scenes over the last couple years
It took you it took you 25 years before that to get anywhere near the respect you deserve
He's been doing that for like a year and a half I would do in that for five years and it's like damn James was doing this shit and working separate jobs for
25 years just to try to get the respect he long deserves and like for all the creators out there who have a dream and want to do stuff
I didn't have a bank account when I first I didn't have a bank account when I was making the phenomenon for three years
I've been in the trenches for 25 30 years
I did uh 50 years of denial. I was happy, but I was like, you know, I did it
Then I owned it again three years later when I got a letter from NBC Universal
So I owned it again and I revisited that film. I think I spent another two and a half years on that a lure made a drug
The phenomenon took as long as it did it took me eight years. I started when I was 43
I watched the film in that studio that I didn't watch it again for several years after that
Of Arizona when he admitted after doing this whole spoof 10 years earlier where he had his a dress up as an alien
One or two. Okay, so this is several years before you leave the Air Force
This one also confirms again that I was doing this for years
It's right when I always said this is who I was during those years. Okay
I've learned after 30 plus years to suspend that judgment and at least listen and hear the people out
They did not come to me. I went to them and I tried for years to get a meeting with them
And he just told you're you just told a few years ago your wife and your kids. Yes. Yeah, all right
You know respected name in that space. You've been investigating this stuff for years
I was I was chasing that down for 24 years 25 26 years and then Logan Paul got a go. Well, that's a different one
Um, and this has been going on for almost 10 years. Anyway, so we're working together on the inside to get this
Got to be investigating this for all these years and who are these men in black are they part of I've heard
One of the points in the program that Brian Bender makes he said he spent 20 years on the hill
I'm telling you one thing I've learned from 20 years on the hill if congress finds out you're gonna find out
It's all our best guests out there how deep these guys are from a technological perspective like how many years ahead
That's they've been working off for like 10 years and then finally somebody figured it out