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Or at least the country. It's the number one most Google landmark in the United States. That's according to travel and leisure and Google that is crazy more.

UAP UFO sighting phenomena happening there than as far as as far as I know than anywhere else on the planet.

How was your family life growing up?

Great. I grew up as a child of the 80s. I just turned 50. So as a as a child of the 80s, my parents raised us on a steady diet of Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Ridley Scott, James Cameron.

I was a huge fan of everything from Knight Rider to Battlestar Galactica to Star Wars to the A-Team. You name it.

The pop culture of the period was in hyperdrive and was was alive and well in the Fugel household.

But I have three brothers. All boys, my poor mother was outnumbered and she actually flew in with us, accompanied us on this track.

Yeah, so she's in Nashville with my brothers doing some sightseeing but very fortunate to have the greatest parents in the world.

And through a comprehensive research effort during my senior year in high school as I was turning 18 years old, I identified commercial real estate as being the ideal career path that would potentially be in the way I was.

And I was very focused on the work that would potentially afford me that opportunity to work with the captains of industry.

the cultural and the agricultural focus and history of that area. In the midst of this property, there is a 350 to 400 acre canyon ranch that has remained unseen by the general public.

It has been a secure part of the overall assemblage and is right out of Jurassic Park or Avatar. It's a beautiful, beautiful paradise that we look forward to introducing the public to in the future.

We met a number of years ago. We've only been married for almost two years, but we met each other at age 11.

And it has brought things full circle. I would have never imagined. If you would have asked me 10 years ago, if, if I would be in this position today that I would own a piece of property and be funding to the tunes of millions of not tens of millions of dollars, you know, private research into documenting the reality of the phenomenon, I, I would, I would have laughed.

I would never imagined it. And, and frankly, I, I had no desire to reveal my identity as the owner when I purchased the property. I did not want my name associated with these topics or the history associated with the ranch as curious as I was, I was a skeptic.

I was an open-minded skeptic that believed that there was a natural perseic explanation for what had been reported there for decades, if not millennia. And, and it has been an incredible journey to, to go from not just a skeptic, but to zoom right past being a believer to an experiencer. That, that was very unexpected.

infatuated with it ever since. And there's just there's so much going on there. You have cattle

mutilation, you have radiation spikes, you have more UAP, UFO activity than anywhere else I've

I was surprised to receive a call from the two senior science advisors that had been on our board

how do you how does somebody that has been conducting experiments with the US government on a

black budget program who very much believes in all of these phenomenons that are happening?

We sit there in silence for minutes. Nothing's happening. I see nothing unusual. I'm like, what,

the presence of mind to screen capture the malfunctioning phone. I'll share that with you right now.

seen is a strikingly beautiful landscape. And I'm, I'm skeptical. I've never, never seen anything

like that that I can report. And I proceeded to ask them. I said, we're sitting there

either it moved with split second speed or it was able to change position through some other

How many bodies do you stand?

And I think one of the most intriguing parts of that part of the investigation is the fact

that even when bringing out the Utah State veterinarian, again, this is the veterinarian

for the state of Utah with the Department of Agriculture, who comes out over a year after

the cow died to inspect the site, to inspect the carcass, finding no predator activity.

It had remained completely untouched, mysteriously, on a piece of property where nothing survives.

Any dead animal is quickly dispatched by any number of coyotes.

Are you saying the cow had not decomposed and it wasn't drugged off by predators or anything?

No predator or scavenger activity had touched it.

In a year, over a year.

of the most credentialed experts when it comes to sensor technology and data collection in a host of

environments globally. I mean, these are platforms that have been deployed on the battlefield

forget that a UFO ended up dropping out of the sky and appearing above 40 professionals. Simultaneous

direction to limit any digging activity, anything that would disturb the earth that may stimulate

negative response that would result in injury or harm. And it was a, it really was a fear.

It's, it's a, it's a dangerous environment. We also don't want to damage the very technology or

altered or manipulated to a degree that is not easily explainable. I mean, it is baffling to

appearing and then what happens within minutes following the black hawk helicopter

here comes right over the mesa, descends over the property and just hovers right over the south

field. This isn't above the men. This is right there, low hover above the field south of Homestead

one in the command center. This is late night, unmarked, not transponding,

and as the men would describe it, I mean, it was a menacing presence on that property,

immediately following at UFO sighting. For whatever reason, that region of the property, that

region of the triangle, which is not far away from where I saw the UFO, the 40 to 50-foot long

gray silverish disk appear and maneuver in extraordinary ways, seems to be a hotspot,

helicopter during that exercise. And there's, this is not a drone. This isn't something that we can,

our interview, I mean, in order to get extraordinary results, you have to put forth extraordinary effort.

in a split second without leaving a trace. And I believe has the ability to communicate if we can

understand or develop a common language at some point to be able to interact. Eric Bard,

can you go into the communication a little bit more? Yeah, I mean, in his case,

I know that you had mentioned that Eric may not be fond of the camera, but, uh,

that I would love to interview him. No, Eric is principal investigator and chief scientist at

important in the future. It's kind of like you, you have to have the right lens to see this through.

And we may be applying it, you know, the, the wrong type of lens. We may be, there may be an

ground and they're testing all sorts of advanced technologies, you know, in service to, to warfare

in the future, whatever. Identifying who those actors are and how they're using that, that technology

intelligently designed reality. There's a higher power that the nature of reality and really

our place in the universe is much more complex than we can even comprehend at this stage of our

I mean that sincerely. You have my commitment if you're interested.

It would be my honor. And look forward to having you meet the team and having you tell the general public

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