And you and your team or anybody on your team was the was my number one choice because I look at all these people out that are that are putting content out or putting information out disclosure and stuff.
And you're the only organization that really just backs it with real science, real experiments, and it's documented.
And it was a pivotal moment in the Pacific theater during the war and hearing his stories and seeing his example helped, I think, crystallize those things that are most important, those core principles that differentiate our way of life, you know, our people.
How did that kind of form you into who you are today? I mean, you, so I did a lot of research on you. I've seen some people giving you a flax and that things have been handed to you thinking that you came from a family from a very wealthy family, which is a bunch of bullshit.
From what I understand, yeah, my father drove a brown beat up Pendo when I was in junior high graduated to a beat up astro van when I was in high school. I haven't taken one penny from my parents. I was very fortunate. I was able to receive that, which was most important, which was an incredible bringing in examples.
It was to everyone's surprise at 18 that I chose to not pursue a career in the family business in construction, but to to forge a path in commercial real estate.
What would what prompted that what what got you interested in commercial real estate as an 18 year old kid?
And through a comprehensive research effort during my senior year in high school as I was turning 18 years old, I identified commercial real estate as being the ideal career path that would potentially be in the way I was.
At age 18, I was able to complete all of the schooling quickly and take the test, the four hour test, and obtain my license to focus on commercial real estate.
So I started off in business at a very young age at 18. It sold my first office park when I was 19 years old.
I was 18, 18 and 19 and it supercharged me. Now I took a break at 19 after spending about 15 months in commercial real estate.
You think of what happens between ages 18 or 19 and 21 and that's a period of time where you're making decisions as to who you are and how you view the world and what kind of person you're going to be.
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My 20s. So I quickly accelerated my success, my control of the commercial real estate market in Utah.
By the time I was 25, I had more office building listings.
Let's keep it real. I'll write on. And so I've always tried to keep it real that at the end of the day, I'm just, I'm here as a service provider.
And, and we're only good at as good as our next deal. Every day I wake up, programmed to feel unemployed. And, and people ask me, well, haven't you felt great success when you, when you close on the sale of an office park or you put together a new project and close that deal.
that I used to work with at CIA. He passed me the program and I dove in and I was just, I've been
infatuated with it ever since. And there's just there's so much going on there. You have cattle
mutilation, you have radiation spikes, you have more UAP, UFO activity than anywhere else I've
ever heard of. Yeah. You have all these these weird injuries happening to people that out there.
I mean, how did this how did this branch ever even wind up on your radar? Well, it's an unlikely
story. But about 13 years ago, I was funding an advanced physics effort. We'd actually transformed
a large percentage of our of our hanger facility for our families aviation,
management and hanger facility at the Provo Airport into an engineering lab testing physics
theories dealing with gravitational physics. It was an interesting effort was something I did not
takers at the time. I had a professional annex marine who was a drone expert that was tasked with
not only conducting drone surveillance of the property, but also developing a historical record
black budget program who very much believes in all of these phenomenons that are happening?
How do you determine the value when you're selling to a skeptic who wants to acquire it to debunk
entities that would follow you. And that's something that has been discussed and documented.
And those created some interest. I still was unconvinced. I mean, we have the Utah test and
training range out west of Hill Air Force Base. I mean, I've worked as the commercial real estate
and all I find is a beautiful landscape. So if you're expecting that you're going to come out
today and see something unusual, bare in mind, I own the property and I have yet to witness anything
Thank you. And you can see it. In fact, he was taking, he was taking photos of me right before
standing in the, uh, the entry to Homestead 2 in, in front of the doorway, uh, just before.
comes back is, is restored. And as I yell his name again, his eyes fluttered open. And he looked
down at me. And I said, what's going on? Something happened. What's going on? He said, well, that was weird.
And very basic surveillance cameras and tools to I think much more sophisticated platforms
experienced in the past and the property, we were discussing the future scientific protocols
and the investigation.
You can bet on the fact that there are probably over 100,000 that have been unreported that
have occurred.
So this goes way previous to Robert Bigelow in 1996.
The Sherman's owned it from 1994 to 1996, only two years and sold it for $200,000 to Bigelow.
discussed, and the ranch, to a degree, it had faded. At the time, I was led to believe that it was
simply because Mr. Bigelow was just buried, was very busy with getting his, his B modules and his
space habitats up in orbit, and ultimately on the Moon and Mars, which I believe was true, but also
I've learned he ascribed negative events afflicting his family to really his ownership of the ranch.
Really. Mr. Bigelow blamed the ranch for dark, disturbing events that happened in their lives,
and it's not my story to tell. It's been told by others and the media and advisors, but
owning the ranch was not a positive experience for him. Even before him, though, this went back to
Native American tribes. Even in the show, I believe it correct me if I'm wrong, are they hydrocliffs?
and the ridge that runs the expanse of the property that Mesa Platt tour, that ridge has been
taken of potentially what could be the first clear evidence of transmedium, UAP, or transmedium,
environments globally. I mean, these are platforms that have been deployed on the battlefield
when I was 18 years old. Oh, really? Jim was developing the towers at South Town, multiple class
a office towers, a hotel, restaurants right in the middle of the Salt Lake suburban market, and at 18,
what was happening on a day-to-day basis. They reached out for over a year. So for over a year
on a weekly basis, I was being hounded by my people to at least consider potentially responding
entrepreneurial activity. As chairman of the largest commercial real estate enterprise in the
Intermountain West, representing Fortune 500 companies and working closely with the governor's
funds in order to help bolster the infrastructure that have gone to vendors, but no money. Not one
over the last seven years. What we are seeing at Skinwalker Ranch is real. And it has the ability
to completely change the way we look at the world, our place in the universe, and how we view reality.
and literally, to find out what is happening. The mechanism behind this strange activity of the
ranch, I, I have to defer to them. I, I have to give them the latitude to get to the bottom of the
to be so aggressive that we end up damaging. The very thing that we're trying to unearth. Or we end
up, or, or end up with people more people hurt unnecessarily. What are the offline conversations
snow flies, it just, it just takes on a little different cadence. Okay. Well, let's take a quick break
and when we come back, we'll talk about the, uh, wormhole portal, black hole, bring it on, whatever we
I think that this makes humans completely irrelevant.
I hope everyone is safe and take all the necessary precautions to avoid any danger.
rocketry experiments with sensors along with drones, sophisticated drones that have all malfunctioned
diversity of incidents and activities. That's what I think drives a lot of our investigation and
elevated activity. When the meter started going off all of a sudden, it disappeared, and it has never
been recovered. And we've searched. I mean, we've conducted exhaustive searches of the area, looked
and machine learning capabilities. They have AI and ML platforms that will be able to
better identify potential patterns that are occurring that will help us, I think, weed out. I think
you know, separate this signal from the noise, separate that which may be a foreign adversary or
even some naturally caused phenomena from something that is truly unusual.
You know, so many things have happened above the triangle. And I think the first thing that I saw
that really, that got me was, I believe was your brother was flying the helicopter over it.
And I can't remember what altitude he was at, but it said his altimeter said he that, I believe,
was 40 feet. Right. He was several hundred feet. Yeah. Well, it essentially was bouncing.
The radar altimeter was identifying something 40 to 50 feet below the helicopter. When he's
truly can't explain, but is real that has a tangible impact on the experiments.
understand or develop a common language at some point to be able to interact. Eric Bard,
And we may be applying it, you know, the, the wrong type of lens. We may be, there may be an
approach that will suddenly reveal everything on the ranch or at least make it more clear.
you is going to charity. And it goes it to sign to other causes and to strengthen the effort. That's
basement bedroom. In fact, I've got a picture of it. I'll share it with you. And on that wall
is a black Lamborghini Kuntosh that I just loved and I have my drum set and my keyboards and my