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It's small town, USA, and it's best.

What kind of stuff are you? What kind of hobbies did you have when you were growing up?

From what I understand, yeah, my father drove a brown beat up Pendo when I was in junior high graduated to a beat up astro van when I was in high school. I haven't taken one penny from my parents. I was very fortunate. I was able to receive that, which was most important, which was an incredible bringing in examples.

My father's success didn't really occur until I was an adult and had already established myself in commercial real estate. It's important to note that my father and I were both EY entrepreneurs of the year for the Western region for completely different businesses.

Are you serious? That's amazing.

And I think that that still kind of sets us apart. In 1920, my great grandfather started a construction company that became really one of the largest utility construction firms in the country, but it wasn't without great sacrifice.

I mean, during the 80s, they could barely keep the doors open. They were struggling considerably into my father and his brother, Guy.

I ended up making some critical bets and risks on fiber optic technology on on devising methods to be able to install long haul fiber optics underground.

And and really took the utility construction construction business into the future. So while while it is true that our family has been very blessed.

I didn't grow up with any privileged group in the same 1800 square foot house and and it was fortunate to be blessed with a work ethic.

So I started off in business at a very young age at 18. It sold my first office park when I was 19 years old.

You were doing that at 19 years old?

I was 18, 18 and 19 and it supercharged me. Now I took a break at 19 after spending about 15 months in commercial real estate.

Before my mission thankfully came to fruition when I was but a greenie, a young missionary at age 19.

You think of what happens between ages 18 or 19 and 21 and that's a period of time where you're making decisions as to who you are and how you view the world and what kind of person you're going to be.

all the firearm stuff. Pretty much anything you can think of it's on there. So anyways,

go to www.patrion.com slash vigilance.lead or just go on the link in the description. It'll

mutilation, you have radiation spikes, you have more UAP, UFO activity than anywhere else I've

ever heard of. Yeah. You have all these these weird injuries happening to people that out there.

theories dealing with gravitational physics. It was an interesting effort was something I did not

publicize. And we ultimately using scientific rigor and discipline disproved the the core claims

and the theories that were being advanced. But through that effort, hold on, what got you

interested in that? Yeah, it was a former client. So I had a client that I represented

back in the mid 90s that was a a genius software development executive that ended up

forming a company that became the world's leading internet consulting firm. And he he left that firm

ultimately to fund efforts relative to the UFO phenomena. He had claimed that he had his own

experience had been visited. I found it all to be quite unbelievable, but I could not deny his

and and working with him at a young age. And when when reconnecting with him in late 2009 going

into 2010, he claimed that he'd spent tens of millions of dollars focused on really discovering

I was surprised to receive a call from the two senior science advisors that had been on our board

But is a is an interesting part of the history. So I was very surprised when first

as a skeptic, as a skeptic of the entire operation that's been going on there, even after seeing

the two images. You were still a skeptic, right? And now you have a guy who had a major part in

and disprove the claims of the gravitational physics effort that I had funded at our private

hands. So I thought who better to bring in, to bring scientific rigor and discipline and a

smartphone malfunction, rapid battery depletion, acute medical episodes for multiple people.

Yeah, multiple witnesses, a diversity of witnesses, including two who chose to leave the area.

to monitor what is happening at the ranch and the rest is history. Over the next year,

I mean, it's been called the greatest unsolved crime spree in the country.

we had a young calf, a two-year-old calf, perfectly healthy, die.

Just south of Homestead 1, right there near the fence line.

There was nothing unusual that they could point to that would account for the absolute lack

of predator or scavenger activity.

Native American tribes. Even in the show, I believe it correct me if I'm wrong, are they hydrocliffs?

Is that what you call them? Petroglyphs, so triglyphs. There's rock art. We have a

a megalithic site as well that we've investigated in the area, but there's a lot of rock art and evidence

of the ancients, of the Native Americans working on the property. There's also a strange

masonic symbol that is etched into the face of the mason that many of, many of claimed symbolizes

as above so below. There are a lot of things relative to the history that are intriguing,

and a little bit ambiguous, but the Native American history, the tradition, and the fact that the

Navajo tribe cursed this property as a result of conflict with the U tribe and the federal government

chair, as this bottle of diet mountain dew. It's a very real part of their cultural history.

in a diversity of climates and environments that are now being brought to bear as skinwalker

with all of the drones malfunctioning. And then that UFO went back up into the sky and

Let me take you back in time. Following my own UFO experience in October 2016,

that it's, it's just the tip of the iceberg of what may lie beneath. And we don't want to damage

frequency in the area. And that is somehow it's buried in that mesa. There's a base. We don't want to,

different types of cameras that have recorded this thing, this anomaly as Travis, as Dr. Taylor would

call it, appears to disrupt the experimental activities that occur. It deflects, we've seen rockets

The radar altimeter was identifying something 40 to 50 feet below the helicopter. When he's

thousands of feet up in the air, when he's 5,000 feet above the triangle. And it was tracking with

the helicopter. And a lot of people have tried to either debunk or try to explain what was documented

during that exercise. There really is no, there is no satisfactory explanation for it. I mean,

we've consulted with the manufacturer. I mean, he's called his resources. My brother, he has more,

is over 9,000 hours of flight time is one of the most seasoned aviators in the region. And he knows

this equipment inside out. I mean, he consults with the experts relative to how it operates and what

he should expect and what is, you know, what is to, to, to, to, to really, what could be involved. And

there's really no explanation exactly for what, what, what occurred there. And it's, it's disturbing.

in particular, has had communication with at least one of these entities involved with

that I would love to interview him. No, Eric is principal investigator and chief scientist at

Skinwalker Ranch resides on the property full time. Literally lives in the command center

documenting what is happening in the air space, lasers. Um, I'd mentioned drones. I mean, drones

have become an effective vehicle for at least testing the space and seeing when there are anomalies,

interesting things are identified and brought out of the data.

in the future, whatever. Identifying who those actors are and how they're using that, that technology

how it works. Tell me that that's not important. I mean, from a national security standpoint,

our place in the universe is much more complex than we can even comprehend at this stage of our

evolution. What I have seen at Skinwalker Ranch, what we are documenting

and in that physics and I think that what we're seeing at the ranch could very well be partially

generations or put in trust. I have no interest in selling the property. I have no interest in monetizing it.

nobody does that. That's amazing. Well, I think intention is important. Having pure sincere intention

are are exciting are insight rendering. I'd like to invite you to the ranch. Sean Ryan, you are a

seeker of truth. You have a very unique megaphone. In the spirit of transparency and collaborating with

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