It has been a hotbed and this has been going on for decades, if not millennia. And we're fortunate to be picking up the baton and carrying forward in a sophisticated and I think a more aggressive fashion.
I was an open-minded skeptic that believed that there was a natural perseic explanation for what had been reported there for decades, if not millennia. And, and it has been an incredible journey to, to go from not just a skeptic, but to zoom right past being a believer to an experiencer. That, that was very unexpected.