out to the ranch. We were accompanied by my physicist who is Eric Bard, who continues to this day as
our principal investigator. Eric was also a skeptic. Eric was the physicist brought in to debunk
critical eye and critical thinking skills to the ranch than Eric Bard. He'd already disproved
Eric Bard, the physicist, accompanied us that day as well as ranch manager Jim Morse. And
And so they proceeded to hike up to the top of the mace. And within minutes, I hear Eric Bard,
what are you talking about? And Eric says, well, you should have seen it. My phone was malfunctioning
You know, a few people said, well, do you feel the ground shifting? And, and even Eric Bard said,
then all of a sudden, Eric says, ah, my phone's doing it again. My phone's malfunctioning again.
Eric Bard, who is, you know, my consulting physicist and, uh, Jim Morse, ranch manager.
It had previously been at 80% charge. My phone's completely dead. Eric Bard's phone
it wasn't about belief. It was undeniable. It was fact. What we saw was real. Eric Bard,
top of the mesa where the phone started where Eric's phone started acting up to two hours.
you immediately started putting together more of the team. You had Eric Bard. Sound like you had
out in the basin, a hotel owner at the time, Eric Bard, principal investigator, plasma
preparing with the team with Eric Bard and at the time, Dr. Jim Seagala, who was participating in
Going on seven years as Eric Bard. Eric Bard is the one who lives at Skinwalker Ranch,
and a physicist that has been a, a great complimentary fit with Eric in the team.
about between you and your team on what's under there? What does Eric Bard think is? You know,
Eric reserves judgment. You'll notice Eric, Eric is not quick to make any claims.
Eric is very reserved and methodical. Members of the team have, have theorized that there,
understand or develop a common language at some point to be able to interact. Eric Bard,
You're shitting me. So Eric Bard in response to a host of issues
I know that you had mentioned that Eric may not be fond of the camera, but, uh,
that I would love to interview him. No, Eric is principal investigator and chief scientist at