bring to Reality Check for the very first time the filmmaker who has probably done more than
anyone else to elevate public awareness of the legitimacy of UFOs, UAPs as an authentic mystery
first UFO documentary was made nearly 30 years ago. He's done Out of the Blue, I Know What I Saw,
The Phenomenon, Moment of Contact and The Program. That's his most recent one. They are brilliant,
credible, factually driven presentations that stand out because they dared to take the UAP
That film is James's investigation into the 1996 Virginia UAP incident, often called the Roswell
for the very first time. I caught up with James at Contact in the Desert way back in May and he whispered
with what he testifies on the record to James was a live alien being held in captivity by Brazilians
and then apparently handed over to the US military. James, I'm very excited to bring you here to Reality
Check. Welcome, sir. Maybe we could start off by giving us a bit of a summary of what the Virginia
go here. I was making my second UFO film in the late 90s out of the blue with a partner. It was
were mapping out the film and we were going to cover Bentwaters and the Phoenix Lights and
various other cases around the world and my partner at the time was a former BBC correspondent,
These aliens walking around in the live. And I thought, I picked the wrong partner for this film.
I Know What I Saw, which is a two-hour special for the History Channel. And I get invited to give a
presentation in Brazil in a place called Peru Ibi, sort of the south of Sao Paulo. And Stanton Friedman
is there. So I love Stanton Friedman and I respect him tremendously. He's the guy that, you know,
in the entertainment industry, Jeff Sagansky. I'll use his name. He's fine with that. And he said,
with Stanton Friedman. And the topic came up. I think there was like a witness there or something.
And Stanton looked at me and he said, oh, James, yeah, you don't know about the Virginia case.
So that was the impetus for me to say, okay, let me have a look. Let me poke around a little bit.
And so the more I looked, the more I found. And here we are 16 years later. And we've got the most
compelling, in my humble opinion, firsthand eyewitness testimony the world's ever seen.
No, I was going to say, so to kick off the events, would it be fair to say that
probably the defining event that kicked this all off is the testimony of a pilot,
Carlos de Souza, 13th of January, 1996. And he spots a cigar shaped object about the size of a
So he was very early in the morning. He was an ultralight pilot. He was a history professor
He didn't know. It was a cigar shaped aluminum, you know, colored very early in the morning.
And it was clearly in distress. It had a big gash on the side. It had a vapor type smoke coming out
the back, not typical smoke. It was like more like a vapor. And he thought, my gosh, that looks like
it's going down. And he was right near what's called the Maialini Farm, which is roughly 10,
12 miles outside as the crow flies from Virginia. And he drives off this freeway and he follows this
dirt road up to what he describes as an impact site. He said he saw this thing struggling to stay in the
air. It impacts the ground. Half of it stays somewhat intact and there's rest of debris over a very large
area, larger than a football field. And does he see the craft crashed on the ground?
Yeah. He sees it go down into the ground and then he lost sight of it, but he saw it go down and crash.
And when he gets to that location, what happens? Can he get onto the site?
Yes. So he arrives at the site with his car. He gets out of the car and he sees this. He said the
one piece of the craft that was intact that was about half of it, about half the size of a large
school bus and lots of bits of debris of various sizes. And he said he picked one of the pieces up
And he crumpled it up. And when he opened his hands, it took the shape back up again.
he was looking at. And then the military trucks rolled in from the military base Ezza from the
So he's absolutely categorical that the Brazilian military intervened, took over a site where
Nope. He didn't see any body. I did ask him, I said, was the remaining part of the craft
And do the military take the piece of metal that he picked up off him? Do they allow him to?
have the piece anymore. He got back in his car and left.
Were there any American soldiers with the Brazilian military in that intervention?
So you've got an obvious crash. I guess in the sequence of events, the next event that
has always intrigued me, by the way, I've got to show my personal interest in the Virginia
That a guy, that a guy from the United Kingdom who makes models.
I thought it was time to reveal to the audience that I have an alien being in my seat.
But so let me, can I, can I just, I'm just interested in the sequence because I've always
it on the morning of January the 20th, there's a couple who report seeing a damaged craft,
which presumably is another different craft flying low over the city of Virginia.
No, no. Okay. So that's, we made that much clearer in this cut of the film. And we also have
wrap your mind around, but if the claims are true and the witnesses are to be believed, what we were
seeing with the craft over Virginia was a, was a rescue operation. By non-humans.
it was looking for its comrades. Nope. There were, so there were, now we have new witnesses on the,
on the cigar shaped craft. We have the two farmers, Enrico. I'll think of her last name in a second.
They both saw the same thing that Carl described, a cigar shaped craft with vapor coming out the back
early in the morning, maybe two o'clock in the morning, something like this. We actually got a map
and we figured out, okay, we have a sighting. We have, we have Virginia here. We have the farmers
that see the craft here. We have another witness that sees the craft over here and it crashes.
And it ultimately crashes right in the middle. It actually makes a lot more sense now that we have
he heard something very strange in the sky and he looked out the window and he saw this big cigar
that's the thing I could never understand. How could the craft have crashed in on the 13th of January.
And then a week later, people are saying they've seen the craft again.
We don't know. No. So yeah, the craft that people have described was a disc shaped craft that we're
doing as a grid search operation. Everybody talks about that. The, the monument over Brazil,
sorry, over Virginia up at is a big disc shaped craft. That's the craft that people saw that was
this time in the craft because it's like, wow, that's, that's crazy. You know, do you have any
intelligence James on how the, the, the craft that did crash the cigar shaped craft on the 13th of
is the case that the U S apparently has been using high pulse microwave weapons. And indeed in some cases,
this gash in the back, struggling to remain in the air and, and smoke. So it collided, something
have been orders over the decades of shoot first, ask questions later. Would it surprise me? It
wouldn't surprise me, but I don't know because I don't, I, you know, the case goes somewhat cold
when it gets on the American side, but the Americans apparently according to the Brazilians
I'm trying to keep you to a good chronology on the afternoon of January the 20th, 1996,
So I, my understanding it was about three o'clock in the afternoon and it was a very hot day because
they saw like, uh, like some graffiti on the cinder block wall, which caught their attention.
slouched up against the cinder block wall. They're looking at it. They're getting closer and closer.
staring ahead to turning and looking them right in the eyes. And that sent one of the girls,
It was feeble. It was scared. It needed help. And, um, she grabbed Katya by the hand and yanked her out
of there. Um, and, and, and off they went and that exploded in the headlines. Now that's a, correct me if I'm
that, looking directly at that young girl. Now you've interviewed, you've interviewed the young
poster of, of the, uh, drawing of, of the creature. And they said it was, is, is exactly what it looks like.
Cause I, I noticed that in the official debunk of the whole Virginia case, there's a claim made by the
military and the Brazilian government that it was likely a homeless man named Madinho, who, who was,
who was known for crouching in the area due to a mental disability. What do you say to that assertion?
I've seen him. He's, he's a known character in the town. You, he's still there. Like I just saw him
So with some certainty, you've got triple corroboration there from the three young girls, now women,
you hear that. And the, the girls are saying like, they don't know exactly what they saw,
the eyes. It was, it was not something of this earth is like, you know.
Yeah. The thing I find fascinating, James, is a lot of our folk mythology talks about the devil.
for devil like from our, our mythology. And, and it's, it's interesting because the story gets thicker,
Is it the same creature?
for the night and they get this sort of, he gets an APB that, hey, there's something out,
or it was something very unusual. So those were the orders given to, to Eric Lopes. Eric calls up his
buddy who is off the night and says, hey, you want to join me? I've got this crazy mission of looking,
you know. So, Marco Ely Chiresi jumps in the car with him and off they go. And they actually see
this creature two blocks from where the girls encountered it just a couple hours later, running
across the road. So Marco Ely Chiresi, without a moment's hesitation, just jumps out of the car and
goes and grabs it. And in the process of grabbing it, and it didn't put up much of a fight, it was pretty
feeble. And he put it in the back of the car and he got a little scratch under his arm and he had
some weird oil on his skin. They go to one little tiny hospital, it was more like a clinic, and the
that he took a creature from Humanitas Hospital because it went from the first little clinic,
didn't get out of the car. Then it went to regional, got out of the car, was delivered,
taken indoor. In fact, I was just at regional hospital like two weeks ago and I went to the
front desk, the main entry point, and I said, hey, you know, this incident, and they got a big plaque
out front. This is where an ET came. It's all right out in the open. Nobody's hiding this story.
And I asked the people at the desks coming into the ER, hey, have you guys heard? Oh, yeah. One of the
Are you kidding? And they said, the creature, no, I'm not kidding you. I swear to you. And they said,
and they got a big plaque outside. I can share you a picture of it, talking about the events. But they
took the ET in the back entrance. They said they did not come in the front, took it in the back.
Did the person you spoke to, aside from Dr. Italo, did they also see the alien being?
Good question. We only had 24 more hours for flying home. We got the details. We got the contact
that corroborate what you originally uncovered. You got to hear, like, so now we have, for the first
a creature from Humanitas to Ezza military base and then Ezza Campinas. And that's when the Americans
came in, right? So now for the first time ever, we have firsthand eyewitness testimony from the lead
neurosurgeon still at the hospital who describes face-to-face contact with the
At this point, James, with your permission, we're going to roll the little sizzle grab you've given us
it was clearly a alien. The crown was in shape of a bottle, the eyes were in shape of a bottle.
For me it was very important to see, because I saw the imensity that this universe has,
the universe, right? We're not just us here in this wonderful world, but there must be many others.
What I love, James, about Dr. Italo is he's very open about the fact that this being touched him.
He seems quite emotional about the experience.
And we knew, we knew that the live alien was at regional hospital. We have people that we're in
Every time we go to Virginia, it's always quiet off the record. They come and there are certain
testimony that that creature was at... So the other neurosurgeon who was on duty that night
procedure on the creature. Apparently it had some damage, some swelling, something happened.
Did a little procedure on the creature. And I don't want to go into too much detail because it's
partner, who's the lead neurosurgeon, Dr. Italo himself had a heart attack just a few months ago.
And he's in the ICU staring at the ceiling, thinking that he was going to die. And he thought,
I can't believe I'm taking this to the grave. This is not right. If I survive this, I'm going public.
And then, yep. And so he said, I'm doing this for my grandchildren and I don't care what the
the kind of whistleblowers we need, James. And full credit to you for persuading him to speak to you
about it. I just take my head off to witnesses like Dr. Italo Venturelli for having the courage to
a very disarming presence and she calmed him and he snuck us into the back of the hospital, snuck us in.
And we're going, what's happening? What's going on? He sneaks us into the ICU exactly where it happened.
We get masked up because you can't be in the ICU without it. So we get all of our masks on. I don't
And then the, the, the, the hospital staff caught us filming and what are you doing in here? You're not
gotten the, we'd gotten the goods. And he's like, I think I just lost my job. And so they kick us all
out. So we leave the hospital and we go into a cap. We didn't know where we're going. We just went
how it felt after 29 years to come forward, what it was like, what it was like to look into the eyes
of the room way. He said an intelligence way beyond it was like an angel, but he describes his skin as
more white with the big red eyes and the little horns exactly the way the girls described. And I
just thought to myself, was that sort of a defense measure? Did their skin react to the hot sun
when I was first going to include a whole scene from Virginia in the phenomenon, right? So I was
covering like Rua and Socorro and a number of other cases in the United States, and I was covering
adamant about getting on camera. But at the time I had just flown, we'd rented this, this, this filming
space in Los Angeles. And we had all these witnesses coming in from different corners of the world about
the Africa case, Rua, Zimbabwe for the 20th anniversary, bringing those guys together. And I was
to go on camera for the first time, revealing all these incredible things about his experience. And
then Roger, and I was backburnered Virginia for the time because I had my hands full, like
digitized them. And I don't know what the exact time span was, but I gave it back to him and then
he died. So fast forward when I was producing the fun, I was because I ended up deleting all of the
scenes from Virginia. I mean, it was a very painful day out of the phenomenon because I just couldn't
on this case alone, the heck with the rest of it. And I deleted the whole thing out of there.
So fast forward all these years later, and I thought, oh my gosh, I've got the Roger Lear
tapes. So I went and found them. And then I bought his book and I'm reading the book.
And I have this incredible encounter. And the tapes were basically a transcript of the book was
a transcript of the tapes because I had the tapes. However, there was one scene where he's in
is that a completely separate being from the one that Dr. Italo is saying that he was trying to treat?
But the implications are, if this is all true and correct, that there are at least two bodies of
alien beings, so-called biologics in the possession now of what will learn to be the US military or
intelligence community? Yes. So I just, we also just interviewed the former chief of police,
of the area all around as a military base. And we've been trying to get him for years. And we
him a couple of months ago. And he says- Oh, is he the guy where you turned up and he was at a window
that's a different guy. I was P2 military police, but Pedro was the former chief of police. And it's
but it really like costs us a good 90 minutes. And so we were showing up at the former chief of police,
pictures, you know, and they got the camera in there and then we got the audio going. And then
he saw one of them under a tarp that was probably deceased. He was at the military base as he describes
all the helicopters and all the activity. He said he saw more brass that day as a military base than
he's ever seen in his life. More brass. He talked about the brass. And so we got him to go on the
senior officers basically. Yeah. Yeah. And so we got the former chief of police now for the first time.
And, and the military officer, Marco Chavis, who died a couple of weeks after allegedly handling this
creature, he dies. Well, the people that did the autopsy is IP, I think it's IPD to forensic
pathologist, Dr. Giannini and Dr. Armando both went on the record for the first time for us on camera
just recently and said, I've never, I did the autopsy. The guy that did the tissue samples,
Dr. Giannini who founded the company, he said, I've never seen bacteria behave in the way that
bacteria behaved. It's never before and never since. So just to remind our audience, this is the
policeman, the military policeman who got a scratch under his arm when he was retrieving the body of,
or the alien, the live alien and taking it to the hospital that night in the original 20th of
And so the pathologists couldn't help him at all. They couldn't treat him.
we threw the kitchen sink at him and there's nothing we could do. That bacteria was just
the most resilient bacteria they've ever seen. Nothing reacted to it. And it killed him.
Now, James, I just want at this point, because our audience may be sort of reeling from the number
that, uh, that, uh, I'm working with, uh, certain individuals in the government to make that happen.
I'm very excited to hear it. Yeah. Cause I mean, I mean, the thing that blows me away about what
I have a neuro, the head neurosurgeon of the runs the entire department at regional hospital today,
Did he lose his job because you did the interview or was it okay?
Okay. It was tumultuous, but he was so in demand that they couldn't like, he's the lead guy. So
they, they couldn't shoot themselves in the foot. So it's been rough is a bit of a rough ride with him,
but he said to me, he goes, James, I don't care the consequences. The world needs to know
an angel. And it was despite the fact that it was in, it sends chills. Like despite the fact that it
was in captivity, it had control of the room. Now, one more thing I think you were asking me about.
So he said it was, cause I asked him, how long did you spend? Did you show the trailer of the film yet?
We're going to show the trailer at the very end. I'm going to tease the trailer at the very end.
I always want to like, I want to experience the witnesses. I want so badly to be there in the
room with them and know every detail. So it's just like putting me in that room with the E,
And, um, he said after about four minutes, he stepped out to do something in the military burst in,
took the burst in, I think exactly what he said, burst in and took the bean and threatened everyone
with secrecy and then left. So the being still alive at that point?
Yes. The bean was alive and the military grabbed it and left.
And this is the Brazilian military. There's no U S officers with that Brazilian military team.
And do we know where the being was taken from the hospital where Dr. Italo had attempted to treat it?
We, we, we, unfortunately, I know that the beans ended up at Eza and definitely Campinas,
but I don't know. And then of course we have the flight control officer who said that the
U SAF, which is the United States air force flight came in and it didn't have authorization from the
let the plane land. So we put out a FOIA request for all air flights in America that came into Brazil
from the 14th, I think it was the 13th to the 27th or something like this. And it took three years
for our team to get that response. And it came back from the CIA. And it's like, basically it's a
So let me get this very clear, James. Normally aircraft movements like that would be the subject
national, it's in the film. You'll, you'll see it.
came into the ESA military base. Very, very close to Virginia.
Not that far. I would, I show it on the map in there. I, I'd have to say it's to the south.
Multiple military witnesses, multiple people. Yes. Yes. And even the chief of police described
Can I ask you this? This is what I never understand is I appreciate that the Brazilian
government at the time and probably now is very close to the US military and the intelligence community.
And for a large period of time, the CIA practically ran a lot of governments in South America and Central
America. But why on earth would the Brazilian government have allowed an American retrieval team
to fly in and take away what is probably the first definitive evidence of a non-human intelligence?
Because the implications of this are that the Brazilian military and presumably other militaries
around the world are colluding with the US military and covering this up.
So the US, the US was going around intimidating witnesses.
And you know, they saw the, what if to take their account at face value, right. They lived right near
where the girls saw the creature and where the capture occurred. There was a disc shaped object
quietly and silently and methodically maneuvering through the neighborhood low. And they watched it.
He goes, I watched it for 30 minutes. The whole family did, and they all talk about it. And so,
and then they said the Americans came and they, you know, they Americans with some Brazilians.
There were other, the mother of the, of the two girls got the visit. That was like one of the first
times, you know, from men in suits. And she's like, I don't know definitively that it was two of the
Offered her money to tell the girls to go public on TV that they were lying and they saw this,
it was a dog or something other. Yeah. And the mother refused.
Did the girls ever retract the story?
Wow. And has the family suffered any retribution from anyone as a result of speaking up?
they saw. No question. And, and, you know, that was one of the first times where I really went all
nameless, unfortunately, and I can't even use it. But this individual claimed on the behalf of someone
that we've heard of to fly into Brazil and get a piece of that UFO and fly it back to the United States.
And this individual swore to me up and down. He did. He, the individual did it. Yeah.
What's that? He was part of the, he was part of the retrieval team.
All I know is that on the behalf of somebody that's pretty high up, he went and he brought,
but the timeline is, would imply that it was of that particular case, but I don't know. But there's
little bit, James, because it's quite tragic. The story of the military police officer, Chirazi, who
picked up the being and tried to get it medical treatment. Yes. His family, they've got the records
and you've mentioned that the pathologists couldn't do anything for him. What kind of bacteria did they
like a week or two ago, we got the full report with comments of the autopsy. And we're in the process
that he's never seen do before. And that's important because one of the debunks on the
Chirazi case that's been put out by the officials in the Brazilian military and intelligence community
categorical that the pathology records that you've newly obtained do verify that this was
right at the camera. I'm the guy that did the tissue samples. I'm the guy that saw it. This is what I saw.
Can I ask you also about Dr. Italo's telepathic communications with the being? I don't want to
take away from what you reveal in the film, but is there any more that you can tell us about what the
I said to him, I said, because I'm very curious, you know, when you looked in the eyes, because I
always, everybody always says, when you look in the eyes, that's when it happens, you know? And so
what happened when you looked in the eyes? Was there any kind of communication? And
that, that it was okay to him. And, and there was, and the way he described it. And I, and I did another,
completely transcribe and put out into the world, but I will. And perhaps we'd do that with you guys.
it was an elevated advanced intelligence. This is the way is the one thing that he said,
The other detail, I don't know if it was your documentary or one of the other reports I've
read was that the whole hospital smelt of this ammonia. Yes. That, yes, that was, that was us. Yes.
That was one of the guys at regional hospital. And it seemed to have been one of the deceased
beans and the smell was just, and people that described the smell, even when the girls came in,
in, in within 10, 12 feet of it, that smell lingered in that area. And the mother had come
within minutes of, of, and the creature was gone, but the smell lingered in her nose. And they all said
that the smell was really, really intense. And I don't know if that was, I don't, I don't,
Isn't it tragic that the first contact with a non-human intelligence is, is, is so acrimonious
that essentially a military agency is forcefully removing that alien from receiving the kind of
treatment it needed to survive. I mean, it's horrible. I mean, I find the, the, the emotional
like you imagine the weight of that on the shoulders. And he, he felt so much compassion
for this being that was in captivity. He was so, he just, the love, the compassion, the
elevated consciousness is what he said. He said, we have so much to learn from the eyes of that being.
which is why the timing of your new film, your updated film is so important.
The Brazilian government and military have persisted with the claim that this is all fiction.
classified the events as routine exercises. They said that the creature was likely this homeless man,
Modino, that the military vehicles were for standard maintenance, not retrievals.
They said that the, this is my favorite one. The hospital aliens were debunked as a dwarf couple.
Yeah. Well, that's, you're going to, you're going to hear directly from the people that did the autopsy
and studied the samples from this, from the founder of the company that did the autopsy.
Yeah. And he said, Dr. Janini, and he said the same thing. I'm coming. I'm coming. I don't care. He's,
we're contacting the lead general who's now retired and that we are actually engaging with this general
Brazil has become a slightly more progressive society. The government's a bit more open minded.
So there's a lot more, a lot more going on behind the scenes. There are members of, I think it's parliament,
Um, there are efforts going on internally, uh, about meetings in the United States. Um, there are
recently with the whole inner circle of, of those doctors and the people that run those hospitals. So
this is, in my opinion, I think this is the beginning of the beginning. So I, I could, could I be wrong?
going to take the initiative. It has to come from people who've had direct knowledge and experience,
which is actually, this is probably a good time to promote it. And we'll do it at the end, James.
If there are people, military personnel who were part of the retrieval operation,
you right now over the, uh, it is moment of contact at Proton.me moment of contact at Proton.me.
And we'll be very mindful of any national security issues or secrecy or whatever the request is.
also in this moment of contact film, you've also gone to Washington DC and covered the congressional
involved in investigating paranormal UAP phenomena for many decades. He worked with Robert Bigelow at the
National Institute of Discovery Science. He was part of the BASS investigations, the federal government
funded investigations into the subject. This is what he told you in this exclusive interview.
Where's the proof? We have alien spaceships in our possession. We have bodies. Where and why can't
I get the specifics to verify those claims? If the president of the United States issued an executive order
that absolves me of all of my TSSCI NDAs. NDAs are non-disclosure agreements. Those are the agreements we have to sign for
every compartment in our SCI clearances. So if the president waives or absolves my obligation to those NDAs, and I get subpoenaed by Congress,
somebody on Capitol Hill, some committee either in the Senate or the House or the both, to reveal everything I know that I learned from my investigations, both unclassified and classified, into the legacy UAP, crash retrieval, and hardware reverse engineering and NHI programs, I would do so.
Dr. Eric Davis makes it very clear there, James, that he knows stuff. He, as you know, investigated the claims that there was this legacy UAP, NHI, non-human intelligence,
What he's saying, though, is very significant, because he's essentially saying, if the president, if Donald Trump was merely to say, you know, overnight,
I feel the frustration among the community, among people that have seen, for instance, you know, Dave Grush, Dave Grush back in 2023,
making these extraordinary claims and not really providing publicly the extraordinary evidence needed to verify those claims.
would you be willing, provided under the right circumstances,
whoever the president is, the president of the United States,
wave the magic wand, provide immunity, which they can do immediately.
and give the details needed to verify the claims? And they're all saying yes.
Some of them have actually given evidence in confidence to the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence privately in a skiff.
But they really want the public to hear their evidence.
And at the moment, we seem a bit hamstrung because Congress isn't passing the disclosure laws that would allow the protection of these whistleblowers to allow,
Fair enough. Pass the bill.
Well, the disclosure, you know, UAP Disclosure Act, like pass it.
Or do you think, as J.D. Vance, the vice president,
he admitted that he's actually interested in the subject matter,
And they all basically said that they made inquiries into the UAP or UFO phenomenon
and were not happy with the answers they were getting.
So it's extraordinary to think that the president, the commander in chief of the United States,
We've had four congressional hearings in the last several years.
The word is out.
The implications, global implications are so profound that I think creating the right circumstance
and really making a plea to the president, I think he just might do it.
I mean, I must confess, I do think it's time for the public to actually see what these witnesses all know.
That's why I'm very sure that the legacy program is a reality.
So I think the president really is.
The ball is now in his court about whether or not he wants to be open about it.
That's one of the reasons why I put the quote from Eric Davis at the end of the movie.
I want the world to see, like, these people are willing to come forward, wave the magic wand, provide immunity,
and we will give the details needed to verify these claims.
But essentially the 30th anniversary of the Virginia incident is in January next year, 2026.
Yes, the film will come out just before that.
There is something out there, and we should know as the people what it is.
Do you believe that the federal government is knowingly concealing evidence about UAPs from the public?
For the first time in history, the names of alleged companies and gatekeepers analyzing recovered alien technology are being exposed.
For decades, we've heard allegations of the retrieval of objects of alien origin.
Didn't drop out of the sky.
The feeling I had during the encounter was like no type of aircraft I've ever seen before.
I saw the evidence.
But one of the most well-documented UFO crash retrieval cases involving live aliens took place in Virginia, Brazil.
I went to the place where the general of the brigada told me that it was a national security issue.
The other thing I didn't even know was to get the ball.
They took it to the camp and the campers.
They took it to the United States.
Now, for the first time in history...
We have the most compelling first-hand testimony.
The eyes were like a bottle of water.
How much time did he spend with the alien in the room?
come forward to both the Brazilian parliament
and the US Congress
Yeah, there's things going on behind the scenes right now
maybe Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State
and the acting National Security Advisor
who does have a strong interest in the UAP subject
that he was also interested in the UAP issue.
from the new administration
and show some guidance to the public
I'll be making announcements in the upcoming days and weeks.
the email he gave us earlier is
on the main TV,
but we'll also be airing it on all of the podcast channels,