Luminous manifestation like experiences that sound like something that a platonic or gnostic mystic would talk about where he would find himself in these realms of fire, what felt like sentient fire with like tongues of fire all around him and high, what he felt like was higher intelligence all around him.
Um, I know I was, I was headed toward some sort of like platonic point, but now, now I'm forgetting, uh, what it was.
Obviously they didn't have that language, but, um, in probably the most difficult platonic dialogue, which is different than all the rest of them, it's called Timaeus.
to that platonic myth of Ur, where you're passing through these thresholds. And as you, you get
because when you read the platonic, um, dialogues, there's a lot of,
who believe there were initiatory practices within the platonic academy.
the Platonic tradition, the Neoplatonists and everybody else. They're all super spiritual, pious,