You were telling me since you were like 13 or 14?
an effort to have their people come out and say, it's real. Yeah. I think knowing how put off
and knowing Jacques fillet and knowing many of these people, I think that they were never really
cleared for the truth. I mean, the deep truth. I mean, anti-gravity is the ultimate secret. And they
have always been or gravity control has been the key thing they're trying to control and protect.
And so I think that they had some exposure to craft and that sort of thing. But I don't think
they ever got read into the deepest compartmentalized secrets. I mean, there's sort of two compartments.
There's the the tech in the bodies. So the naturally bifurcated since Roswell when they had a
bunch of bodies or maybe earlier in Cape Gerardo in 41 or maybe, you know, crushes coming on
33 agent. Yeah. So I think that they're they've been exposed to a lot and they have a lot of
knowledge and secrets that the government probably told them. But I don't think there's layers upon
someone of the alien abduction experience is highlighted was it? Oh, gee, the problem with planet
earth is that the male female ratio is wrong. Yeah, I said, I had the same reaction, the sort of,
General Nathan Twining was the key guy in the Roswell investigation and then
let the top I pretty much already read off what that is. Go down to analysis. All right, so class
is investigation of the MJ12 documents found that Robert Cutler was actually out of the country
was going to give him to her and then took him away. I think to do would be the interview Linda
and and ask her what's going on what her I've heard her talk about it before. I remember
major event happened in 1994 when a undeveloped film canister of Triax film again was mailed to
Don Berliner in Washington DC who was an aviation week and space reporter. And when developed it turned
steeliff Bronx biological section what what makes you say well his bronch was the guy who did the
autopsy of the alien along with Charles Ethan Ray in the majestic documents so those are the two guys
um was watching his father um at the JFK assassination on TV and his his father basically burst into
tears and said oh my god they did it and this made a really lasting impression on Tim and he learned
a lot of these ex intel guys especially the ones who have some kubano and in their background
right I think usually because of that and even more so than the Bay of Pigs it seems to me
finger prints the ink that's really the principle so you can fingerprint the ink so if you have
and so that's the forensics that you have to do to sort of prove things to the next level but the
national archives will never let you uh take your original document and put a little hole in it
year he never he was he when he retired in 93 he was working on the space station wow yeah so he did
lot of documents we got original documents got uh photocopies and leak documents some have
gone through lots of forensic analysis some have not so this is a mismatch there's lots of pictures
too somewhere on the website some are still in my filing and and since my father died I I cleaned
out his office and uh I cleaned out 23 boxes of material uh books filing cabinets and I'm still
just going through it and I don't know I went through one filing cabinet you know here's
uh a write-up some background and little vile of allegedly roswell crash parts while it was
dust uh or granted you had a vile of that you had a vile of it I didn't know anything about it
it's like okay dad why are you gonna tell me this shit
so uh and there's there's a bunch of stuff and I suspect there's probably some other leaked
majestic documents in there that he didn't share with me he didn't tell me everything but
I know we were close together some of the most of the major stuff is all on the website
I've ever used it looking at that then versus now night and day and that's just some bullshit app
that like you know someone like me can use to produce some pictures but you see some of these like
that was the impetus for that particular um exploration into AI and I
car going and try to identify the various zones or fields that could be the right locations
think it's pretty much um he's a Vietnam veteran he's sort of like um they're built different
they're sort of like fuck you uh and uh I you know I don't think he's manipulatable there um
them they kill them and took took the stuff not Chihuahua Mexico um no I think it's I'm looking I'm
looking through your Chihuahua table yeah table of contents here yeah it's well we can we can find it
commercial jets these are these are what we call narco traffickers yeah and the fucking
uncontacted tribes look at him and they think their boxes in the sky sent by God oh wow and I'm like
speak and ship them off and I think that was the first tip off that oh my goodness these things are
potential biological weapons and that that continues on and that that's one of the impetus for my
these civilizations could simulate ahead of time and in English what I mean by that is if you are
one of the only sort of think pieces in the majestic document trove is a memo written by
Einstein Einstein and Oppenheimer and it's a four-page piece that's on the majestic documents.com
and what to do about it how to address it what to think about it and that's uh
uh uh I thought it went to go to your what's your point absolutely and so and and that's that's
that before it became Martin Marietta which later became Lockheed Martin right so the Glenn
the point is that Trimble and his team put together this huge a-lister team of theoretical
physicists theoretical mathematicians and worked for many years on cracking the code of gravity
control from an intellectual point of view from a gravity control design and I think they succeeded
you know 1960 plus or minus a year and that capability at that point the Glenn L Martin company
in in 62 merged with Marietta and Marietta was doing all sorts of deep underground bases and
underground facilities and nukes and things like that of power plants and so when those two companies
merged that's when I think the secret government yes spawned that's the point at which
that's been used on multiple podcasts I've recorded recently and it's nice to hear you you say
or on even some intel maybe they had received on which companies or yeah like which companies were
involved with the crash retrievals and what they may or may not be working on that's a really
in the forties somehow they were able to as they took control of the country get possession of
this craft and take it back which is what David Grush said you know with some of the evidence he
where it worked and the Allies may have recovered it from Germany rather than Italy per se
but you know he's a primary source historian he has a 5,000 page
where you got something the size of a desk that can lift two or three thousand kilograms
yeah advance propulsion but Tim Tim Ventura runs a whole organization 100 people or so
transportation structure or or airplanes you can start using their gravity control or if you have
a fusion reactor and electricity you can now fly without petrochemicals so if suddenly the value
ET's I mean the messages from the ET's tend to be you know clean up your environment get rid of
your nukes and have more compassion for your fellow man so there's messages that are coming through
is a credible possibility that we have gravity control craft we have a base on mars and that
this military officer and many others have the same thing as anyone corroborated what he said there
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