So he was driven in a squad car about 15 minutes out of town.
Well, becoming my friend, your longtime friend though, Richard Dolan a few months ago. He's like, Julian, you have got to talk to Ryan.
Well, it comes to you. If I crash retrieval, there's no one better.
And I sort of, you know, I'm 15, 16.
I was like lights in the sky video analysis. Oh, that's neat and stuff. But hey, it doesn't do it for me. You know, show me a higher-ruglific hatch.
You know, that's, that was the, the acid test. So I said, I can do a better job than these guys. And so I started the UFO crash, the travel conference in 2003 and ran for seven years in Las Vegas.
So that was the impetus of creating the book at that time and just kept pushing along with ufology for those crash retrieval times and then I had family and kids and took a little pause, but basically in the last couple of years, I've reemerged into the field and tried to focus on what I perceive as the fundamental big issues of ufology.
Yeah, which are in my mind, there's three of credibility. There's not enough credibility in the field and leadership are people doing what they can do to make a difference.
the Mufon conference in essence and that you everybody had to submit a paper. And that always helped
feed everybody, educate everybody. I mean, these are grand socialistic ideas, but I think that's
you know, you have to do that. And the only way to do that is to solve the energy problem. And so
you can have two choices. You have either fusion and an eutronic fusion basically radiation
free, neutrons or radiation free fusion energy. What my day job is a CEO of electric fusion. So
we're working on, you know, a roller bag, a little day job. Yeah. Working on fusion and a roller bag
that's portable, but or you do gravity control. So either lower the cost of electricity by a factor
of 10 to 100. You can do that with gravity control. You know, if you have 1% less gravity here,
you have a flywheel spinning and the flywheel just keeps going. I mean, it is, you know, 1% gravity
from the desk to space. And so that's a powerful thing that can be harnessed as well. So with free
nukes anymore. We're, we're satisfied. We don't have to have a contentious society. The other thing
is a miscommunication. So that's one of the big challenges with the advent of AI and more computer
gave what was in it. Yeah, they found a little body and they gave it a proper burial in the local
cemetery. Who buried him? The local ranchers in, you know, 1897 or the farmer, I can't remember his name.
uncover because there's questions, there's people to try to say it was debunked, there's people
to try to say it was real, but I just want to make sure the listeners have context. I know what we're
so I literally found the guys that were responsible for marking that. The also thing that we did is we
style details associated with hot led printing presses and classified documents and some of the
autopsy to an alien and she said yeah I wouldn't put it past him yeah she didn't elaborate she didn't
say that he ever told her that she did it he did it um but he no hesitation in her voice um we
the secret sauce with the Russians he just you know he gone through the Bay of Pigs and you know
the whole new thing and um that was uh not a pleasant experience for Kennedy and all those
other original pieces of paper you'll never see that uh except out of my hands or out of my safe
I mean is did he look at this is purely extraterrestrials potentially coming from another planet
in the galaxy far far away or did he look at it as future humans or some sort of other phenomenon
it was it was far more the uh the nuts and bolts of the science of uphology and the evidence
uh and the authenticity of documents so that was his sort of lane we both sort of were fascinated
by abductions or interface experiences but never really uh investigated those we didn't go
down that path more interested in the engineering side yeah the engineering side exactly and
and that was uh our focus so that was his conclusion uh it's sort of my conclusion too and
there's lots of reasons well you know people ask what's the ET agenda and different races have
different agendas from the grays being maybe more genetic manipulation uh to the blonde Nordics
being you know more altruistic and benevolent but I'm just sort of speculating uh sort of highlighting
what the AI uphologist uh your latest book yeah the latest book that I that I did the AI uphologist
squad car about 15 minutes out of town um they put a little blanket over his head yeah no they didn't
1941 road map you know what is 15 minutes driving at certain miles per hour imagining you're a police
but um it was uh the story goes that the the Navy seals or the special forces just killed him
if you were to take a radar from 1947 and do a spectral analysis of it it would be extremely
different then what's on the F-16 yeah uh it's operating today uh for sure yeah so it maybe
a couple of times and traded emails you gotta do some you gotta do some content with him
yeah I love to yeah I want to but yeah I'll talk to him but he he always mentions he's like
okay back then they believed in the 240 to 60 theory that's definitely not what they called it
nothing but squirrels and they the gray squirrel the brown squirrel all squirrels all squirrels
around the world there's a huge body of literature on squirrels I suspect that there's probably more
on it if anyone's going to do it I want him doing it but like we we all of it is purely hypothetical
in that way and and surely shallow yes and uh not as robust as the truth sure um so yeah I um
who says clearly this is a man-made craft that I saw man-made craft in 1966 and a very credible witness
I need to I need to also possibly define that and stick on my little tinful hat right here
back uh the good ol foyer requests of the government that have been released over the years
Rich Ben Rich who was the head of Lockheed Skunkworks for 15 years Lockheed Skunkworks and in his
decades ago for UFO crash retrievals just like how the government gives out defense contracts to
companies like Lockheed Martin to you know help with weapons of war they give out contracts for
a company like Lockheed Martin or Northrop Grumman to go in and basically be the men in black if you
will when shit goes down and bring back the craft and be in charge of it which Lou points out
gets weird when you then consider that they therefore these private companies have been given
custody in this top secret program of these alleged alien crafts or not of this earth craft whatever
you want to say to the point that they can come to the government and be like you're not read in
on that so who it's it's like it's like it's like the clowns are in charge the prisoners are in
charge of the asylum now right and who's really running the world is that is that the 1500 people that
have these top secret are clearances instead of I mean QR so I think that the the secret
but I'm just sort of speculating I don't have any data and then there's all sorts of
18 years ahead of time I was saying crash retrieval scratch retrievals and and before me was
Leonard Stringfield oh yeah Leonard Stringfield did a lot of you know aka Webster he was an
and huge for our progress as a country it's great and you know there's a there's an interesting
guy with an even Todd Ritter a Todd Ritter dot org he's speaks for German but he investigates
and so you need of something that's substantial you know there's also these NASA guys that are doing
and and the secret is really either it's either fusion gravity control or somehow tapping the
zero-point energy to give me unlimited electricity in a box what's what's the government's incentive