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80 years old. But whatever that like energy gene is, he's got it. Right. It's never saying

anything like it. But he would speak at your conferences. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He spoke there. I mean,

33 agent. Yeah. So I think that they're they've been exposed to a lot and they have a lot of

electricity costs a lot of money. Any burn hydrocarbons. And so you want to get rid of the hydrocarbons.

tech. We're going to get to the point where you can drop into the middle of Africa and have a

little, you know, cell phone on your hip or something that dynamically translates everything from

he wrote the book Crossfire about the Kennedy assassination did a lot of research. He was a

he was, he was encyclopedic in his knowledge, you know, the same thing with like Rich Dolan. I mean,

he can be very, he can go. Yeah, he can go. And that's, that's the beauty of some of the people in

there? Well, Cape Gerardo is also mentioned in the majestic documents. So you know, what can I

cut you off for one second just for people to have context out there, then we'll come right to

Cape Gerardo. Can you just take us through majestic 12 and what that is in the history of it being

uncover because there's questions, there's people to try to say it was debunked, there's people

to try to say it was real, but I just want to make sure the listeners have context. I know what we're

talking about. No, that's that's perfect. So the broad brush is that there's been a series of

leak documents starting in 1984. And the last one is like 1999 or 2000 from seven different sources

spanning some 3,500 pages of leak documents. That's a few. That's a few. Some of it classified

top secret magic like like that. Yeah, like well, let's see. Well, like this one. Yeah, this is the

first one that that is the Eisenhower briefing document. I'll hold that up to my hand. This is a

James Forrestal general Nathan twining general Huyte Vannevarg Dr. Detlev Brank Dr. Jerome Hunsiger

Mr. Sidney Sowers Mr. Gordon Gray Dr. Donald Menzel general Robert Montague and Dr. Lloyd

genuine signature, including accidental scratch marks from a memo that Truman wrote to Van

of our Bush on October 1st, 1947. Can you scroll down? Class dismissed theories that the documents

out the back of the the stage when the CIA was brought up and he's questioned about that. He so he

find other examples of where they used it. And so that is a hallmark of authenticity for example

or the the style of the the Psalm 101 at the very top in that style is a correct copyable though 40

that an example of this combination letter with the gold seal uh and everything Curtis Lemay

another another strange dog back there yeah right who definitely was up to his eyeballs and control

IPO has been freely admitted in multiple freedom of information act requests

uh to be a real unit part of the assistant chief of staff for intelligence uh technical and

yes yeah 300 pages but did he give it to you yeah you got he gave it to my father uh father and I

detectors and did some psychic work and so there was there was a few adventures with Joe um

you know 10 20 years ago when he was younger um and uh and that was fun that was fun

it was and he did a lot of you did a lot of work for me um on various targets where I had

well like in one of the majestic documents um in the white hot report which is on majestic documents

there's one whole blackout page you know where there's nothing there and somebody to redact it at

all and I had him do a blind target on a blind target yeah basically said you know here's the black

out page what does it say and he basically wrote what it said and what did he write he read that

this was about uh hieroglyphics and alien communications and um the investigations of uh

of how the government was working to decipher the alien writings inside craft so that was a particular

as to screw up so badly and land on planet earth uh and so as David rushes mentioned in his

testimony as there's a certain percentage of uh events that ended mission failure

and the private contractors working with them who are then yep by extension that therefore

intelligence then we don't know if like they're working on all this and that's why you know these

the Middle East is could easily go a couple nukes and I think that might be the you know

Russia hit us we'd lose 60 but we'd hit them and they'd lose 240 we win by 180 yeah right and so

yeah we look at that during an era of people where you know they probably blew off a president's head

Neil deGrasse Tyson who say we're not interesting at all and they don't want to study us and sometimes

Michoukaku who's been on this show will go there now he's obviously a lot more open on some of

sometimes because you know you can look at it and realize warnaval brawn was the head engineer

at NASA when we went to the moon and Nazi put us on the moon you know and that's that was very

L Martin company in 1950 started a group called the Raya group research institute advanced studies

I believe and that's on the on Wikipedia and it was headed up by this guy George Trimble who is

could have on one team within the government how put off in Jacques Follet who are both geniuses and

know a lot about the physics of this stuff and maybe have been read in on some crazy shit over the

knows only you see what I'm saying absolutely yeah continuous exponential curve of secrecy

that's the thing that is the the holy grail the secret that they're guarding uh endlessly

find interesting about it is that if it really happened in 33 and I'm sure it did that no doubt it

so I mean the 33 thing was great and I applaud Grush for you know kicking me in the pants so to speak

of work on various scientists that are focused on gravity analysis and gravity work and that's

all the cases we've talked about today and a lot of cases you cover in your book are our land base

right so it's where they crash somewhere or are seen very clearly somewhere overland but there's

also this whole discussion about what's going on with potential transmidiome UFOs ones that operate

in air and in water obviously we've we've that even came in when you talk about like the 2004

tapes like oh where those tic tacs come from they come from the sea maybe but have you is there

evidence of like any weird UFO I don't know crashes or something or or mouth functions that occur

like on the water um I think the um not predominantly I think the Murray Island case was there's a

I think there's one case in the book where that's it's a craft that goes into the water that they

recover as well as there's the uh could I have your book oh yeah yeah yeah by all means there's

Globe Explorer being also used to recover crashed UFOs I think that

what how are we gonna change the planet how are we gonna really advance the cause I mean

you want to do something good with it yeah I mean I close my talks um typically with um

kicking and screaming out of them I mean I can't believe that you know China's not sitting there

stupidly they are working hard on fusion they are working they're hard at working hard on fusion

um i mean you you could go into uh jesus and mohamid and all these people are basically alien

clones designed to uh and and i'd say that's a credible theory uh so

engineers you could look at presidents you can look at astronauts you can look at uh congressman

and generals uh so you and a lot of celebrities have said a lot of um you know i've been abducted

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