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Vegas Vegas. Yeah, Vegas baby. And all sorts of George Napp was there. He came and talked and all these people that are mainstays of uphology right now are came to the conference and made presentations.

Typical, you know, 500 people from around the world all in Vegas for, you know, Friday nights, Saturday, Sunday. That's dangerous. Yeah. Yeah.

people fighting over bull like race or whatever, you know, they choose today. Like humans are inherently

flawed. We are a flawed species in that way. And I feel like when we start getting to the, and Danny

pushed their the CIA and the intelligence community to say, give me the photographs. I mean,

what's the big deal? Why can't I have a 1957 YouTube overflight? You know, give me the nine-inch

way. So he's gone. Yeah, I mean, nobody knows where the exact great site is anymore. This is

he can be very, he can go. Yeah, he can go. And that's, that's the beauty of some of the people in

Eufology. And that's actually what motivated me in part to try to capture capture that wisdom

I have Forrestal's FBI file and yeah, I have a bunch of FBI files. But it's a nice old flex. So

class mentions is was widely debunked by by Stan Friedman and written up in his book. He actually

won a bet against class for a hundred dollars of signature a hundred dollars per date format.

And how many date formats were there? Well, class refused to pay past 10. So we paid a thousand

dollars to Stan Friedman. But Friedman found like 20 25. Yeah, these were all at the

Nash Library of Congress manuscript division. So that whole that whole message

is and then class himself is part of the disinformation campaign in Ufology. I distinctly

remember him coming to a variety of conferences and sitting in the front row and basically throwing

barbs and refusing to accept any evidence. He was he he clearly had connections to government

agencies. And it was his his focus was on debunking. The same way Richard Dodie is in his

I believe Darcy we're talked about that one right. I'll say that was the same one because he

was talking about Richard Dodie. Yeah. Yeah. And so there there are cases like that. I'm not an expert

red line between Kennedy and Khrushchev where they had I think up to like 18 very full blown conversations

that weren't like reported to anyone at the time and one of the one of the other key I guess outcomes

Air Force as being a duly good citizen and uh he went in and never came back out except uh 39

years later from the Freedom of Information Act office uh at Fort Mead Maryland um to Tim Cooper

peruseic and you were able to take a little thing a little dot out of it and compare them you

sent it off to a forensic laboratory to do it and they read a report and say yep we compared the

can't push the needle of authenticity one way or the other and so you're just left with oh interesting

conclusion uh but he was a physicist so he was far more interested in the nuts bolts of gravity

control and what is what's the analysis of the electromagnetic spectrum or what is it why are some

and ask good questions and so I did that and uh the first question of what's the ET agenda

I'm getting my PhD in anthropology and emerging kindergarten civilizations let's go over to

planet earth and see how they manage this uh nuke no nuke kill the world environmental conflict

this can involve plans to rescue a select group of humans in the event of global catastrophe

ensuring the continuation of the species you know so that's heavy it's heavy so that's an example

people out there didn't want to be left hanging on that so what happened in that one yeah well

so I got 1939 aerial photography in 1942 or 43 aerial photography and look for places where there's

wrong maybe it started with an S I forget but he oh it's definitely the sea or an H H but he

allegedly in the basement of the capital saw a few alien bodies or something like that they were

like alien parts existed in in vials of from out of hide I think I've heard that story but I don't

have any you know deeper knowledge than you do co-op on yeah that's see when I when I hear stuff

like that because then I would think that that guy would have written like a whole memoir on it

or something well there's lots and he may have I mean no as anybody gone to look for his files

um I mean I want to go to Las Vegas to Harry Reid's archives and and go through that I mean he's

got to have a lot of information there that's uh I mean there's lots of subtle clues there's no

smoking guns um but there's circumstantial and supportive evidence everywhere that could be uh

brought forth do you think some of that and I asked this a lot of different guys sitting in that

simulate you know who if if I'm gonna be seeing only these kids in the woods are gonna see me

no one else is gonna see me so no one will believe them couldn't you do that as your own type of

bombs haven't gone off we don't know if like in Russia which obviously has had political changes

filled with insane egos dictators tyrants people who get into let's call what it is pissing matches

with each other and just aren't afraid to you know play score and the score is how many bodies do

I hope it that doesn't happen but I think that it's probably gonna take one or two nukes going

but who's to say it it doesn't take more than a few people thinking like that right there can

yeah there can be thousands of great people in the government and I have no doubt that there are

my thought is maybe because like like sometimes I'll sit there let's use the squirrel example sometimes

and that's the thing that's that fascinates me is that I started to think well what

public too right so what's happening privately yeah well I mean and in the majestic documents there's

many references to earn a stronghold and many other paperclip scientists that were involved in

things forward um how do you get a more organized cohesive strategic plan put together to

I was putting billions of dollars in investment in fusion efforts and trying to do that but fundamentally

traditional hot fusion is is doomed because it's not doomed but it's still $50 a megawatt hour which

is basically the same price of electricity as it is today uh and until you can make electricity

substantially cheaper you know 10 x 100 x you can't really help africa or help right uh the rest

of the world come out of this resource deprivation in food and water and resources and uh basically uplift

the majority of the population but China China's pushing hard on gravity control I mean I'm sure they are

and they may figure it out ahead of time or get caught up and pretty soon it's going to be

you know chishin ping could decide did it's close to truth about UFOs

he could he could he could yeah I don't know and uh and I think that the uh you know that this goes to

uh uh uh uh hummode uh uh uh i'm on emid something like that it's in my new book uh UFOs who knows

newspaper the interview in hebran on friday and gain traction after parts were published in

english by the jr. zlm post on toosday a respected professor and retired general ashed said

stage where we will understand in general what space and spaceships are ashed said referring to

the galactic federation the white house in israeli officials did not immediately respond to


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