You know, that's, that was the, the acid test. So I said, I can do a better job than these guys. And so I started the UFO crash, the travel conference in 2003 and ran for seven years in Las Vegas.
Wikipedia mentioned. And Bill Moore in 1989 was in the Las Vegas Mewfond Conference and he he ran
um I mean I want to go to Las Vegas to Harry Reid's archives and and go through that I mean he's