You know, that's, that was the, the acid test. So I said, I can do a better job than these guys. And so I started the UFO crash, the travel conference in 2003 and ran for seven years in Las Vegas.
Vegas Vegas. Yeah, Vegas baby. And all sorts of George Napp was there. He came and talked and all these people that are mainstays of uphology right now are came to the conference and made presentations.
Typical, you know, 500 people from around the world all in Vegas for, you know, Friday nights, Saturday, Sunday. That's dangerous. Yeah. Yeah.
Wikipedia mentioned. And Bill Moore in 1989 was in the Las Vegas Mewfond Conference and he he ran
um I mean I want to go to Las Vegas to Harry Reid's archives and and go through that I mean he's