very interesting u.s government military documents were released
that they wouldn't prove that ufos are aliens but they did prove absolutely proved that
something extraordinary but like so the the the implications of that would mean that either a
aliens use velcro and kevlar and night vision or b that it was just some man-made thing well no there's
was the start of my entry into this field back in the early 2000s and i have never left it's it's kept
me um in its grip ever since so your theory was that the your conclusion was that the national
security state knows about something that is not from this earth yeah and has that conclusion evolved
at all over the years yes it's it's developed and it's deepened i guess i could say i've never
i've never since then formed the conclusion that it's fake or that it's not a concern i've never gone
there but there's different variations of how it works like i remember when i first published that book
i got an email from astronaut edgar mitchell who uh was apollo 14 and uh we it was lucky for me
he was the first uh kind of famous person to endorse my work it was like great oh wow moonwalking
astronaut and but he said to me look your your theory about the cover-up is not exactly right
it's like he said he believed that my theory was that it's like the government and
and 60s and 70s and 80s that was all still happening it never stopped and so i think it's very premature
to just dismiss it all as saying he was only looking at our own secret tech i actually don't believe
hansen case is that there's a all this was going on at this time so there were cattle mutilations
happening all in the mid and late 70s out in the midwest and out in the rockies and uh and benowitz
astronaut and a few other individuals were going through washington dc and and greer you know look
he can be very polarizing but he was he was right on with this and i will always say this in 1997
not have the ability to do tilt at an angle while hovering uh rotate this way rotate that way
uh but he supposedly and look this has not been vetted i mean you know but this is all just new
this phenomenon is from non-human intelligence the reason i believe that is i look at the earliest
history of this uh particularly the early like the post-world war ii but even there are some very
you know i mean that's kind of an interesting thing right there and we've had enough uh stability over
dinosaurs were intelligent hell not not maybe compared to us but compared to previous life
forms they probably were intelligence is always increasing yes and uh you know our body plan just
engage in planetary domination of any capacity honestly i think this plan this body plan of ours
might just be the best way to do it because what you need is an ability to manipulate your
just think that uh i remember as a kid reading like what certain scientists thought like life elsewhere
would look like and some of those ideas were kind of kind of goofy when i look at them now and i don't
can fly as well as insects can fly right and birds and that type of thing yeah that makes a lot of sense
um when i brought this up to greer he was he was explaining to me he believes it has something to do
looking for them because i really wanted cases that uh had some meat on the bones that you could kind
of work with and give a good description of so i've got about just under 700 uh from around the world
and some of them go back kind of far not not into the distant distant ancient uh the first really
good case that i consider good is actually only from 1717 so like 300 years ago it's a pretty good case
though and then they become better over the years uh a lot more detail and i just started collecting
them i wanted to breathe like fresh life uh 99 of them are completely forgotten even by like experienced
researchers and i think they're just completely they've gone by the boards and i thought uh they
deserve they deserve a fresh retelling of them and i wanted to do that and then it just morphed into
more and more things i ended up getting a really great illustrator uh a man named alan levine who's a
wonderful man and did beautiful illustrations for this project and i did a bunch of other things i wanted
him to be highly credible highly this and that like apparently this was a very well-spoken
believable individual peter found him incredible and that's really all that we have on this but
so you're talking you find a map almost six miles down it's it's not quite as deep as the mariana
trench in the pacific but it's you know close and it's quite large several hundred miles so you have um
oh wow tilted so that's that is on is that northeast south is that oriented the right way or is that
he wrote in a very matter-of-fact way it was like 1717 17 17. wow yeah this is way before submarines
that's kind of interesting and then there's one from a river a little small river in scotland in 17
think okay not not that far right but off out out there in the pacific
rail draws for me to uh to engage in this project yeah that's one of the things i think about a lot
too like you know there's various ideas of like how many people in the world know the truth about
she's a real a great benefactor to our civilization and she is a gem and a brilliant individual and a
wonderful person she's like a absolutely decent wonderful totally um so but she's also
know how much money gets siphoned out there's definitely i mean i completely agree a lot of
money that's gotten siphoned out and what is the exact number but it's 2.3 trillion dollars would be
of false flags you can go find it go to guy and go look for it um that was much less than i had actually
researched i did a lot more research on false flags than i did for that series but
ii and uh all the covert ops that we have done but anyway you create a catastrophe a trauma
that people freak out over and you identify it you don't you connect the emotion to the intellect
you cannot and whatever the government tells them they they think the opposite is true you're probably
going to be right to a certain extent think of i think of the ufo reality as a mountain right
and i think he's he's i think he's on the right side of this that's my belief people can say you're
you know you're naive whatever uh lou elizondo i'll say the same thing uh christopher mellon these are
hard to avoid talking about specific people in this community yeah and you get like and it's hard not
to go chasing after the latest headline yeah yeah which is a problem because ideally what you want to do
is you want to stop and wait and go slow yeah so that other researchers who know more about propulsion
than you do who know more about the history of aviation than you do who know more about the
history of this department than you do like you want all these people have a chance to chime in
and provide their own perspective and that just takes time and it's nuanced um but no i don't know if
i have a sure shot uh answer to these things i remember when bob lazar you know was he's still i guess
a little controversial it was much more controversial in the past and uh part of it is like you
you go by for me because i wrote about him over 15 years ago in one of my books and it was really
difficult like i didn't know what do i think about bob lazar i didn't know back in 2007 2008 when i'm
finishing one of my books and um i ended up thinking i believe this man and i believed him because
screwed my mind up was um the guy who went on jesse michael's podcast who was talking about
i talked about a little earlier when we talked about eric davis i knew for a fact when those things
came out in 2019 that that document i knew it was real and there were a lot of people at the time
talking about the atlantic oh tech yeah oh tech oh tech that's what it was okay
puerto rico is a major hot spot that's why i can tell you florida is a major hot spot area this whole
region here and so the fact that they've got something down there in the bahamas i just think it's kind of
a book um which back in those days i was his publisher so i know about it quite well uh he's publishing
it now but it's called hidden in plain sight it's a pretty good book interesting yeah so to your
than i can about it but the way she describes it seems quite quite logical and then you have these
characters like elon musk who gets all these crazy contracts to launch these satellites into space and do
can put out there to to explain some of them maybe like a booster rocket went off and uh ice crystals
moved off at an angle but there's there's a lot of these types of things that seem very bizarre and
another fantastic guest for that going back to uh what we were just saying about how everyone has uh
their own belief system surrounding everything i've noticed that everyone has their own flavor
basically i have to be done and what is required is uh just breaking them into chapters and doing
those little chapter introductions that i was telling you about amazing so it's uh it'll be out well