and 60s and 70s and 80s that was all still happening it never stopped and so i think it's very premature
happening all in the mid and late 70s out in the midwest and out in the rockies and uh and benowitz
you look at the the mid and late 70s and two important things were happening to threaten
and they could get away with that until in the late 70s researchers were petitioning the government
all in the late 70s this all happened at once prong number one was foia prong number two is crash
uh there was a researcher no longer around called leonard stringfield who back in the 70s and 80s was
empire of secrecy and the late 70s early 80s they make the decision in the early 80s like let's um
from uh the 70s and the 80s and the 90s and the 2000s like they they've got a throughout there's
delta reaching out to the atlantic ocean in the late 70s yes yes yes um and there's a lot of those
going on maybe they're interested in that yeah um but anyway yeah there were some cases in the late 70s
the 70s and probably beyond reported something and i'm sure i'm going to mispronounce this it's spelled
i want to feel what is it like to be there so imagine it's the cold war it's the 1960s or 70s and
such agency was completely secret for more than its first decade until the 70s it came out right well
the 70s and but it's still like to this day it's quite secretive you know but that was a secret
in the 70s or late 70s maybe and this guy was making the case and that according because that he