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obtained through freedom of information which itself didn't really get going until the late 1970s

philip corso he wasn't a general but he was um an officer in the u.s army and uh in the late 50s early

for psychiatric evaluation like in the late 80s it this really got to him it really messed him up and

and they could get away with that until in the late 70s researchers were petitioning the government

all in the late 70s this all happened at once prong number one was foia prong number two is crash

empire of secrecy and the late 70s early 80s they make the decision in the early 80s like let's um

50 50 50 day versus night and then suddenly starting in the late 60s usos yeah usos exactly

starting in the late 60s it goes to 75 at night and it was it remained that to this day 75 now i mean

to have happened in the late 60s how do you go about mining all this information do you just look for

delta reaching out to the atlantic ocean in the late 70s yes yes yes um and there's a lot of those

going on maybe they're interested in that yeah um but anyway yeah there were some cases in the late 70s

came out a lot of kgb files and this type of thing and so we uh soviet navy in the late 60s and through

this is still in the early 2000s in the late 90s and but a lot of lazar's interviews were available

u.s navy back in the late 60s and he was asked to develop a series of illustrations uh portraying

all of their power they went to some dinner together yeah they had dinner and this is i think in the late

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