and i was just blown away by some of this stuff yeah what do you make of that research i mean
and i think it was 1994 and i saw on a display stand a copy of a book by timothy good called above top
there were claims that there was a very big ufo cover-up going on by then and these were not
maneuvers that were supposed to be impossible being chased by our aircraft and essentially playing
you read uh statements by the director of scientific intelligence of the cia in 1952 a man named h
explanation that made sense to my brain how basically you like you're falling through space by
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that the u.s national security community knew some elements knew this was real this was not made by the
russians this is not made by us someone else is operating this we did not have control over it
tough thing to do uh but then i i got picked up by a different publisher and um and then that was that
right well that's by design right yeah yeah i think so so that all of that was an evolution through
this was done by greg bishop called project beta project beta yeah it's it's a very fine book i don't
near kirtland air force base in uh new mexico and he's able to see uh and by he's by the manzano
and so he started to publish his research bit by bit you know in these tiny little ufo journals that no
it's like are we dealing with a covert op by the government to have a controlled and false release
attempt by the head of intelligence for the joint chiefs to get access to this program and he was denied
this this technology was not made by earth not made by man not by human hands in in the davis notes
by human hands so they all knew that so davis gets these notes and the only reason those notes leaked out
mitchell's documents those documents went to australia and from there they were jpegged and by the early
can say whistleblower interviewed by jeremy corbell and george knapp very interesting guy and then um
gregory this was put out in the daily mail uh by josh um boom no josh uh forgive me he's a friend i like
force major and he was a nasa doctor he's looking for it dr gregory rogers rogers and it's by i want
uh worked on a number of shuttle missions and said in 1992 he's down by cape cape canaveral i think
and he saw a cctv footage of a he was shown this by another air force officer of a flying saucer
by the requirements of constantly developing that intelligence in other words
in odor for over 72 hours even after 12 hours sweat was still reduced by 92 percent mando is known for
with morphic resonance this theory by uh rupert sheldrake to win there it's like some sort of a quantum idea
seattle and they were by the aleutians and apparently an object appeared to have come out of the water
really intrigued by it and i thought to myself this is back this is three years ago so in 2022
realize there were a couple of books that had been done on this it was a book back in 1970 by an american
researcher named ivan sanderson a very good book uh there was another very good book by uh the recently
doing more of these little mini presentations for my website and it just became by the summer of 2022
months ago and that and that will be followed by the other two which will be out this year i've
them i wanted to breathe like fresh life uh 99 of them are completely forgotten even by like experienced
researchers and i think they're just completely they've gone by the boards and i thought uh they
websites where there's a lot of information so one is the national ufo reporting center that's run by
and you get some good cases out by norway and britain absolutely about south america yeah south america
cases yeah so down by buenos aires and argentina also all along brazil brazil's got a lot this has
there where people were uh killed and and severely injured uh by these objects and that that definitely
and not in a kind way by something yeah and in fact there are claims that this type of thing goes
the first really good one that i just was kind of really taken by took place in 1825 and this was on
uh and they were going to end up in chile okay so they were down by uh the cook islands
included with the story oh okay looks like an iceberg behind it right yeah they weren't by
deck of the ship by the way so fast forward about 150 years to 1971 okay this is going into my next volume
sub well we have some pretty good account actually the best accounts of that by the way i'm a very big
of a book by arnold toynby a really great historian it's like the mozart of historians in my opinion and
remember this was uh it was it was like designed by default physically impossible to audit the us
dishonest it has to rule by lies because and and that that distorts all of our politics too because
still am really i'm not gonna be insulted by that we'll come back to that then yeah yeah i'm you know
one of my theories on 9 11 is that um that people that were closest to it and affected by it the most
deeply upset by it and then what you do this is the genius of it you find the solution immediately
whether it's hitler invading poland and saying we were attacked by the poles which is what he did
you go by for me because i wrote about him over 15 years ago in one of my books and it was really
and i'll see you know they had this kind of conversation and a couple of years go by and
you're dealing with i mean by its very nature the ufo let me just keep saying ufo because i'm so used
mentioned that he introduced davis by way of those notes and he he uh so he obviously knows it's real like
uh like basically like underground cities that are connected by highways all around the country and
you know i i um used to know there was a researcher uh by the name of richard souder dr richard souder
me 9 11 was what put me over the top by the way 9 11 put me and i think a lot of people full on in
much younger i didn't think of myself as a pragmatist by nature i didn't really know that but over the