different places as to like what i think is actually happening when we talk about ufos or now uap
i didn't know anything about ufos uh like essentially literally nothing and i'd only heard
ufos departments that i was looking into and uh ufo connections there and i thought you know this is
that they wouldn't prove that ufos are aliens but they did prove absolutely proved that
books my second volume of history uh called ufos in the national security state and my my feeling was
60s the u.s air force could say we don't know anything about these ufos i mean it's a little bit
for documents pertaining to ufos and holy cow like they got a lot of them proving that the air force was
but yeah i mean it's we're going beyond ufos here or uap this is in a whole array of things i have no
i can't do ufos anymore like in the old days i would go to like two three in the morning just like
inch usos simply means unidentified submerged objects water-based ufos or water-based uap that's it
deceased researcher named carl feint who wrote a very good book on water and ufos uh but not much else
see here's the problem with this so usos just like ufos or uap now it's very us dominated in terms
got a crazy history just a general of ufos yes absolutely and recently learned about that uh that
the reports from like uh robert hastings with the ufos and nukes and the the the saucers showing up
information that let's go go back to ufos i mean uh 15 years ago i co-authored a really a cool book
i wasn't even really conversant with lazar's story i had just worked my ass off to get the story of ufos
them back here and holding them to use them as psychic manipulators or psychic uh pilots for these ufos
to it we say uap whatever yeah ufos represent i mean we we talk about it in our society often enough
know about like i never i never would imagine i never knew that the nro had anything to do with ufos
jfk and ufos oh that's something we didn't go into wow that's a really uh wonderful i had a
you had ufos are part of that that's not right a trivial part of it not the whole thing though no