kidnapping kids from indonesia after an earthquake and then michael herrera is that the one so herrera
this guy corroborated herrera you're talking about jake barber yes yeah his story i did not hear this
and i jesse michael's great podcast it's the herrera it's basically the herrera story yeah right he i mean
heard herrera talk so jake barber says that he went there as like a guy to uh catch whistleblowers to
prosecute them right and then he heard herrera talk and he's like oh my god he said yeah you basically
any other research that can verify it to some extent so we have you have herrera then you have
like michael herrera or jake barber or or bob lazar right one of these sorts of stories that you that you