jason i think you know who jason georgiani is right i had him on recently and he was explaining to me
um but other uh i mean it seems to me that if you've got something as exotic as technology that
words this is really interesting to me because you know normally for years and years you're thinking
how do they do anti-gravity pardon me some kind of propulsion system some kind of engine but no if
getting a decent night's sleep is between 9 p.m and 2 a.m before one of my kids wakes me up and i actually
like a nice warm cuddly hug before bed since i started drinking evening being it's helped me go
to sleep earlier and get a solid amount of deep sleep before my kids wake me up plus you fall asleep
so i started i'm looking at um all of these early documents that's really what got me in so i was
me um in its grip ever since so your theory was that the your conclusion was that the national
i got an email from astronaut edgar mitchell who uh was apollo 14 and uh we it was lucky for me
astronaut and but he said to me look your your theory about the cover-up is not exactly right
would drop me a little little drops along the way little breadcrumbs um and um indicating like
my years of looking into this i have to say uh one of the uh biggest turning points for me in this
the way yeah i think um when me when i had jesse michaelson here he was i think he told me that
it is it is your oversight that i am not overseeing this program you need to bring me in you don't
well that's that's a real problem what and he finds out from them i remember greer telling me this
it's italicized and i remembered reading it struck me like it's very profound you know this is not made
okay but this is what excuse me you're hearing people have uh you know focus on i'm talking about
gregory this was put out in the daily mail uh by josh um boom no josh uh forgive me he's a friend i like
declassified documents that i mentioned earlier that are available it's hard for me to square that
i would imagine that the extraterrestrial hypothesis actually still makes more sense to me than anything
if i've i'm on top of that one so maybe you can you can educate me but uh but i guess i'll just say i
think the fact that they come from another place still makes the most sense to me uh the fact that we
would be of interest makes a lot of sense to me the fact that earth would be a very interesting place
also makes a lot of sense to me i think all of that makes perfect sense that if you have the ability
math wrong steve maybe you can correct me with the uh the fractions there anyways the fractions are
humidity doesn't help for me i've become a human petri dish of stench if you've been struggling with
for me especially in florida during the summertime when i do a lot of activities outside including going to
the parks recreational sports just a walk through the parking lot will have me smelling like a dumpster
uh experts would be better able to say this than me but i think it's quite i mean look even in
without electricity for five hours last week five i have a sister who lives in seville and uh trust me
been uh hashing around for a couple of years excuse me i totally believe that that's the case we actually
of getting into what mike masters explained to me he's a uh anthropologist and he was explaining to me
at all of these different factors that go into it and it seems to me that bipedal standing upright with
um when i brought this up to greer he was he was explaining to me he believes it has something to do
all right we're not gonna waste time on this it i gave up um so how so explain to me what made you
very interesting i mean to me intrinsically it's interesting to hear a story about an object that comes
stories exist i have a website uh with a lot of amazing members and uh they'll ask me questions one
person asked me a question about a particular case from 1945 near the aleutian islands a little
was somewhat known to me and it's known to other researchers and i just did like a little bit of
not anticipate doing when i started but that became kind of a significant thing too and that taught me
more about this phenomenon just looking at some of the statistics that seemed to jump out at me so all in
very glad i did it because then that allowed me to put all of that into a spreadsheet and look at
the mutual ufo network has a database which i was they graciously allowed me to use their database
that would mean that agua dia is where on the top left top top top right excuse me top right okay i
appears to be the case yeah it was a lot it seemed like the way it was described to me was that there was
object i mean to me it's almost it seems like it could have been identical to the one from the 1820s
kind of detection one of the things that just fascinates me about uh these usos is like whenever
rail draws for me to uh to engage in this project yeah that's one of the things i think about a lot
could probably do this better far better than me it doesn't to my understanding necessarily mean
a factor of eight right so how do you lose eight times your annual budget it beats me i don't know what
thing katherine said to me i think and she's probably written it she she talked about when she first she
and she described and katherine forgive me if i get this slightly wrong she said i want to look at the
you know there are people far more conversant with that than me but yes i'm my dad worked at the world
more for me than anyone else but my dad was was there that's crazy so your dad your dad knew a lot of
get emotional uh so just forgive me here sure sure but um my dad learns that like richie
you go by for me because i wrote about him over 15 years ago in one of my books and it was really
decision on bob lazar fortunately for me i what was your decision that he's legit he's telling he
was telling the truth yeah it seems to me that that he would be a great candidate for the cia to choose
local paper and he's meeting with teller and apparently teller says call me sometime young man
the only reason that he went public is he uh bob lazar forgive me if i'm getting any of this wrong
i wasn't yet 40 and anyway so i meet with stan and he wanted the first thing you want to know about me
and respect stan always will but i did not appreciate that i felt that he was trying to pressure me
in a way that i just don't like don't don't tell me what i'm supposed to think on this i'll come to
any idea why stopped or do you have any uh theories it's hard for me to speak for him uh the impression
you're dealing with i mean by its very nature the ufo let me just keep saying ufo because i'm so used
i mean look imagine being across the table not from me but from one of them and imagine they have
publicly to take a stand on it wow yeah and everyone's like throwing all kinds of shit at me and
that's fine but i'm like and there are a couple of people who privately had said to me
he also told me was there is this uh there's this secretive nro character who was tied into nasa who
aide 15 plus years ago i don't think he's alive anymore but he he told me like he's he was interested
surprise me yeah yeah it's crazy stuff man it really is and another thing that um catherine
fits was telling me about is all the money that's going to these underground bunkers and underground
yeah i know his case extremely well yeah and it'll come to me in a second sure why my my brain is
subtle like we don't see anything like this you know so strange to me yeah like that's a really uh
knows far more so it's hard for me to say oh he's full of it but for him he's made this statement a
out there or he would have known about it and it's hard for me to know how to judge that i mean
his property which i have not been to so i need to be upfront about that um you know it's hard for me
me when he was explaining all this stuff to me was that like this is something that he really experienced
i had a gentleman on here uh a couple weeks ago who brought me a newspaper article that he had he
no understanding of it and it's it is not for me to get involved in anything like that i if even if i
to mention who those i think those people are there's there's no win for me in that yeah i'm not going
me 9 11 was what put me over the top by the way 9 11 put me and i think a lot of people full on in
for me too like uh i said earlier like i almost wrote a book on false flags in the history of it so
friend's saying instead you're thinking what's his motivation for telling me that totally that's a
in from a lot of different places it seems to me yes which is why i appreciate when people like you
were coming from which i do to this day and that's that was good for me and uh i think that when
levels but uh the fact is that it is is not for me to um to write someone off just because they see