All of them calling for the ceiling and the children would always be at the bottom crushed flat like bugs and sometimes you know the the Nazis kept extremely careful records and sometimes I suspect some of those children weren't there and that noise I remember from those box that box I think that's the sound a recorded of the screaming from in the back of the box.
I know you've worked with Peter Leventa you wrote a book called unholy alliance right getting into really speculative territory that I don't I don't personally feel high conviction in but I'm curious to get your take on which is that you know the Nazis somehow allied themselves with an unholy force of non human intelligence.
I don't want to go down that path I don't feel a level of conviction about it either I think the Nazis were just shits.