Yeah in the world like we are in moments like this I just often remember a specific interview the doctor John Mac did with one of the one of the kids from the aerial school and he asks her why she thought the visitors were there and she goes in space there is no love but down here there is and I I remember so viscerally watching that for the first time and that resonating on such a deep soul level that I don't know what I'm going to do.
But I haven't heard from Laurie what what what were John Mac
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John Mac and Edgar Mitchell and
So didn't didn't the Rockefellers both on John Mac and Steven Greer as well and the 90s I believe yeah
So okay, it's what was John Mac like the sea he was well first of all we were both cut-ups when we were kids and played a lot of practical jokes and made