That's not true. They were involved. A couple of data points to support you before you go on is Robert Sarbacher said John Von Neumann was directly involved.
That's exactly right. Yeah. Well, you Robert Sarbacher. You knew Sarbacher. Oh, absolutely. No way.
Stan Friedman was a catalyst. And he introduced me to Robert Sarbacher and to other people.
Well, when when Townsend Brown finally achieved a positive result with his anti gravity experiments, this was in Paris. He flies back to the US and Robert Sarbacher picks him up in his big Cadillac.