Stan Friedman was a catalyst. And he introduced me to Robert Sarbacher and to other people.
Stan gave me Sarbacher's number. And then he called me back and he said, Sarbacher is waiting for you to call him. He's very eager to talk to you.
She could blow up in your face very easily and but Stan Friedman's to me always stood out along with John
Psychiatry Department and then Stan Friedman was like this Westinghouse nuclear engineer, right? You know