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as an insider, who now turned out to be Jake Barber.

then Jake comes forward, which is interesting, especially his background and his people.

And everybody gets confused to think that Jake's team has access to this technology.

Do you ever think, because later, Jake Barber backchanneled with you,

and at least with what we encountered, now I can kind of go into talk about how I met Jake.

This is where Jake was basically where I met Jake.

Jake Barber who's recently come out again this Air Force vet who claimed firsthand retrieval is there, but he's there trying to infiltrate Greer on behalf of legacy UFO programs.

Good create problems if Jake wants to speak about that, then you can speak about on his own accord, but I want to put anything in front of him and he doesn't need to be concerned with.

And we go to this pretty cool place. And where Jake was at, like an office.

What would make sense in the context of Jake even saying that his initial role was to red team or infiltrate the ramp?

And I mean, everybody that I known through Jake was was a great person, you know.

They are basically getting into a cognitive or a state of consciousness to attract these craft to appear at these certain ranges in this organization, not Jake's team.

So everybody needs to understand that Jake's team is completely different from what this organization does.

That's where Jake's team would come into need is because his team will get contracted to go pick up these vehicles and then transform to a facility.

Okay, so you speak at the MPC. You're then contacted by Jake and you then take into a location.

Well, I mean, like I've been told, Jake's even aware too that there's several different

So there's this big debate because I interviewed Jake and that, you know, it's like this question

The more I talked to Jake about it, the more he was able to put it into reference and

When Jake discusses Skywatchers and some people on the Skywatchers team, the P3 assets

early on in their lives or they induce it somehow, granted this is not what Jake's team

So it could have been a different program outside of Jake's that referred to the P3s as

Doesn't mean Jake thinks that that's the case, or at least that's how he personally

This is the reason why Jake came forward, right?

Because I think Greer has spoken about this that when he spoke to Jake, Jake, for

So this, I mean, Jake saw pretty much the same thing, except much smaller that something

That was the most fascinating part of my Jake interview is he was like, who is we?

you saw, the souped up version of the eight gone that Jake retrieved is made by the Lockheets

So with Jake's incident with him red teaming the event, I think it was one of the things

Well, when Jake took me on a nice little trip out to the desert, that was something that

I'm not going to burn Jake in the process because I had given him my word that it was

Yes, I have, but it's not something from Jake's set in the house, for example.

The only thing that changes is when you have people like Jake, for example, who come

But his son on his podcast, interviewed Ross Koltar before Ross Koltar broke the Jake

Then you're going to have people like Jake knocking on the door saying, I know exactly

these because this is you know I had references to Jake several almost several years ago explaining

I mean like I've said and Jake Steven said the same thing you'll know them by their deeds

like that's the boring part of it Jake's even said the same thing yeah to yeah you know so

that problem you know there was suspicion when Jake approached me that I was like okay maybe this

to prove it's real so is Jake which we all know it's real but in the the consensus of the planet

about so it's the people with psionic assets when Jake even said this on my show where it's like

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