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Let me just be honest, off the bat.

I loved your first documentary.

in Brazil with these aliens.

We're walking around the town,

And this guy calls me Jeff Sagancki.

He was very high up on the food chain

So I go to Brazil with no intention

of looking into it.

And it might make sense.

But I think that it's hard to dismiss that he worked

And then something about the batteries and boom,

So what are you doing?

My point is this, according to James Kibble, when he's in the film, he said the disc was kind

of coming down like this over his garden.

And he had his Polaroid camera.

He was going to take pictures of who you're doing the same wobbling.

Yeah, I said this kind of hand.

Just telling what he told me.

He said it was kind of wobbling down like a leaf kind of.

And then he was like holy shit.

And he grabbed his Polaroid camera.

And he said he did it so quickly.

He smashed it in his face and his split his nose open.

But he snapped one shot and he said what it did was, is it went like this, which on

The photograph that I have shows it sideways.

And I'll show it to you.

I scanned it from the original Polaroid.

And then it shot off at an unbelievable rate of speed, according to him.

Exactly how those are describes how these things work.

That's exactly my point.

And when I interviewed all the children now adults that watched this thing land at this

Westall Primary School in 1966, they said the same thing.

It was sitting on the ground.

They got up to, I think, about 10 feet away from it, which is pretty remarkable when

you talk to witnesses, especially that many witnesses.

It's in the moon.

You can hear all the testimony.

We know that the vast majority of these cases can be explained in conventional terms.

All this noise about Chinese balloons and weather balloons and that's all noise.

They don't get, they can't get a crisp photograph of a photograph.

They think it has something to do with the propulsion.

You know, I know Barney Hills granddaughter.

That's incredible.

one has made any serious claims of, of being a hoax on the cases that I'm giving you.

So that image right there, could you bring me that again, Jamie?

There's a lot of people that are full of shit.

So you bring that guy and you tell him, hey, tell us what this is.

He's got condos and he's a propulsion expert.

He's kind of nuts, but maybe bring him in.

Well, I'd like to see the original tape because it's going to be a lot better condition than

an old VHS tape.

And yeah, so is there any indication that they were

and put pins in the map for all these different locations.

So I was like, oh, okay, sure, let's do that.

and people at Malstrom Air Force Base,

might not Air Force Base, talking about these incredible

I don't fuck this up.

It's a joint British US base.

It's called the Rendlesham Forest Incident.

Defy after exhausted research.

I mean, Nick Pope talks about it at the MOD,

and put it on the front page of the New York Times.

Now they can't...

for the United States Air Force as a scientific advisor

that he recreated.

Yeah, you'll see fake symbols

Yeah, that's definitely,

I've actually found the original one of the,

to your audience, okay?

And this is about evidence, okay?

I think it's called Ariel Phenomenon.

And it's all just about that case.

and he passed out.

When he came around, he found several scars in his body.

I'm thinking, oh my God, I'm coming to the realization.

And I just, I worked so hard for so long with so many people.

And then I just deleted the whole thing out of the film.

And he's getting prepared to leave.

And he's got a driver waiting for him outside.

It was weak and feeble.

And one of them kind of like screeched.

But they all did.

I mean, everybody talked about that stench.

I couldn't reintegrate back into culture.

Joe, I was just like, fuck, I think this happened.

He was like, I don't care all the money in the world.

I'm never coming forward.

And I said, look, man, we'll put you.

We'll film you from the back.

and you could see people drawing the curtains back

and looking at you and you're standing out.

But I ask questions like, what was the atmosphere like?

Do we, is there any talking?

So he never got to see it.

He did not see the alien.

for something unusual, what they were told.

They didn't take a UFO and crashed.

If you're too afraid to talk to me,

there's new whistleblower protection

that Senator Gillibrand and Rubio and a handful

of others just signed into law.

You can go and contact someone like Andre,

Representative Andre Carson.

And there's a process you can go and testify

until everything you know without fear of prosecution

are violated in any NDAs.

I beg and plead for you to do that.

Now, excuse me, there are a handful of Congress people

and senators that I believe are sincerely trying

to get down to the bottom of this stuff.

I've met with some of them, and I've continued to try

to meet with someone else.

I'm working with a guy named Brian Bender.

He's kind of consulted on the project.

He worked for Politico, and he's got great access as well.

So the two of us are trying to address the evidence.

The photographic evidence, the potential debris evidence,

the potential body evidence.

Where is it and who has the authority to release it?

You know, I've never really covered it.

I know that I put my reputation on the line, Joe,

All I'm saying is, this is potentially

the biggest story that we've all been waiting for,

I mean, that's really what we need.

I know it's what we need.

The proximity to all those events is within a few blocks.

The house, that the entire family witnessed,

and sharing that information with us, mayor Vairs.

Help me find Eric Loeb's.

But that lucky gave me,

that was like international.

Apparently the doctors were left

to load in the room for a while with this thing.

Yeah, there it goes.

Yeah, that looks like kind of like a top.

of a new runway, F-86 for F-86 fighter jets

at Edwards Air Force Base.

but particularly don't talk about the beans.

The data's out there, go look at it.

It's the enough thing I did call them, I know what I saw.

And if it wasn't for documenting,

documentaries like yours and Jeremy Corbyles

He is a treasure to the world.

He makes science exciting.

flier sensors, they're seen visually.

Some cases people claim that we've recovered them, okay?

when I watched it, I immediately had to talk to you about it.

I know, I got your text and I was in a workout room.

You're so compelling.

What what gives?

I said, well, let me ask you a question.

If there was tangible evidence being withheld,

I'm not saying this is a fact.

I'm just saying hypothetically, if this was going on

and if it was being kept in the general public

that there's evidence that suggests we're not alone,

how significant of a story would you give that?

And immediately he's like, oh my God, if that was true,

it would be the most important thing ever.

I mean, that's what we all want to know.

And I was like, well, I'm convinced it's happening.

So how do I walk away from it?

It's almost like what you love kills you, you know?

Well, I don't think it's killing you.

Well, I think I think you almost did with Eric Loaf.

Well, yeah, that was a sketchy scene.

Those sketchy scene.

I think it's important and I think you should be praised.

And I think that if this case is real

and if these people are telling the truth

and my God, it certainly seems like they are,

it's unbelievable.

I mean, the confirmation that some,

Such a huge universe.

It's impossible to even wrap your mind around how big it is.

all of our sensitive private data, right?

Potential materials and bodies with the rest of the world.

A moment of contact.

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