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And so as many would know, that project ended up being very productive and it went over more than 20 years and so on, highly classified level.

And so eventually 20 years later you can find the paper that was published by the CIA about what a deal this was.

It went for, I don't know, like 23 years or so.

At a certain point after we had done a number of years of successful work in doing the remote viewing,

And he became one of their star remote viewers over the years.

But what we found out in the research, it took years and a lot of trials,

And then years later, Corporation A is making lots of money based on what they got.

And by that time I was, you know, I mean as a physicist, I mean through the years,

He's been involved in this field for 16 years.

Or maybe some ET group showed up here 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 years ago and they're hiding out with some bases locally and so on.

He also got it published in the proceedings of the IEEE, Institute of Electronics Engineers, a couple of years after our paper, like 1978 or so.

Well, analyses started taking place by Linda Howe at other laboratories, I think in the years, in the 2000s.

We got it analyzed only a couple years ago.

And they worked on it for some years to try to see if they could reproduce it.

So it turned out that some years ago when I was digging around to try to find out how to explain unusual effects,

Well, now having all these intervening years go by and there hasn't been any obvious super breakthrough by adversaries.

And then just the potential of what do we look like in a million years?

What do we look like in a million years?

And if we existed in this form for hundreds of thousands of years, it's not inconceivable that a species like us could keep going with its innovative trajectory and achieve some state a million years from now that is just beyond our imagination.

Well, just what we see with the leaps that quantum computing is able to achieve equations that would take standard computing billions of years.

And then just imagine taking that 50 years.

50 years ago, that was science fiction.

Well, if it does happen, it's thanks to people like you that stuck their neck out for many, many years.

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