So, I showed up there and I saw people, some of whom I knew, including my ex-contract monitor from CIA, people from DIA, a lot of military people and so on.
And so they asked the top physicist at DIA, Jim Lekatsky, who was one of the top physicists on propulsion and rocketry and so on,
I mean I recall when the DOD program was set up out of DIA, they said, well, we need to investigate this to find out whose craft they are, how do they run and whatever, whatever.