It was like, okay, like at that point I had like been plugged in and I like, I had met Jacques
the Jacques Valle's of the world?
like what is that you know that that's this like phrase that like Jacques Vallet himself
fourth Philip the fair was indebted to them and then he got really mad at you know Jacques de
fifth and I think you know Jacques de Mollet was you know he had he had been in touch with the
Clement the fifth and I think Jacques de Mollet might have had like a very interesting worldview
in the entire space because he's just like a genius in life and that's Jacques Vallet yeah
you know a piece of it is a male to Jacques Vallejoqueville like gives it to Gary Nolan from
just take the what was observed the fact that they're a male to Jacques around that and then you have
who maybe have handled this like you said like Fale Jacques Fale and and Gary Nolan haven't
that they're the best theory UFO books since Jacques Vallet and in some ways they're like even better
than some of the Jacques the Jacques stuff's amazing and set the foundation but masters really has it