a new look at the Bob Lazar story called S4, the Bob Lazar story.
So it's great. Dermy, you've been down this road to what it's like making a film on Bob Lazar and the story.
All this stuff. There's so, there was so, there's still so much wrong information on the Bob Lazar story out there because it's the telephone game for 40 years.
Every time we talk about every time you hear people talking about Bob Lazar and his story, they immediately say things he was saying or things that were apparently happening, but they're not saying when he said it.
That's an important thing is when was Bob Lazar talking about these things that that really puts the context in a, it puts everything in a different context.
It was surreal to be in that room with Joe Rogan and Bob Lazar.
Well, as far as the, actually, as far as the story is concerned, as far as the Bob Lazar story is concerned, I didn't, I didn't, I, I obviously at the very beginning, I wasn't sure.
They didn't know who Bob Lazar was.
So it's important to always remember, I was the only person on Project Gravator that knew who Bob Lazar was and what had happened.
Or so they got to meet Bob Lazar.
That is something that I take very seriously. And I, and I really, really ask the audience or everybody to suspend judgment and think about that for a second, because this has everything to do with credibility of the story and not just Bob Lazar.
And the fact is every time I hear people attacking Bob Lazar for me in my ear, it's saying, well, you're, you're automatically attacking George Knapp.
Bob Lazar smuggled a pound and a half of 115 out of S4.
Bob Lazar stood up and made a drawing on the whiteboard of the, the doors, the adjacent doors in the hangers.
Look, if there was going to be a program like this, they'd ask me to be in it and not Bob Lazar.
Bob Lazar put a jet engine on, in a Honda Civic. Sometimes people just say Honda, a Honda Civic, which is a pretty small car now.
There's an army of people who hate Bob Lazar who spend their time creating websites and all sorts of stuff.
It that is completely different. Every time people talk about Bob Lazar, a lot of people talk about Bob Lazar.
Yeah. Whatever the case is. When, when Bob Lazar was explaining it to us and building the sport model took a long time.
And I thought, look, I have Bob Lazar.
So that day I was at Bob Lazar's house.
What it does though, is in 1989, Bob Lazar knew that at that exact location, near Papus Lake, there was something hidden in the mountain that looked like large rectangular doors.
So there's just a preponderance of evidence that keeps adding to the Bob Lazar story.