Some of them I knew when I was at NASA have come talk to me and said,
I talked to Alan Bean. He was from Apollo 12.
I was 12 when Star Wars came out in 1977.
So as a 12-year-old, that wasn't that exciting.
I don't have a good word for what happened to them.
This is really bizarre.
So we're discussing this in the hallway, and it was this heated discussion.
He goes, I have friends who work up at Malmstrom Air Force Base, and they have problems with UFOs flying over the nuclear missile sites and shutting down nuclear missiles.
That was a joke, right?
I was up late that night teaching class early, right?
I barely slept.
like yourself, because I think science in the conventional sense has to be repeatable.
You know, every time you drop this pen, it needs to fall in sort of the same way for it
to be science.
Right.
And so I think the nuclear link is a version of that with UFOs, where UFOs seem to show
up across nuclear bases, not only in the U.S., but all over the world.
And that's one thing that worried me.
Once I looked into it, I thought, wow, this is happening in the Soviet Union.
This is happening in France.
This is happening in England.
We were talking before the show.
I'm wearing my American Alchemy Japan shirt, which is paying homage to Lino, which is a
town next to their Fukushima prefecture, where they have, they're famous for their nuclear
spill in 2011.
They have their civilian energy grid.
And UFOs were reported to show up there.
They have a whole museum dedicated to UFOs.
Right.
Vice did a documentary on them in 2022.
And it's the town in Japan that's obsessed with UFOs.
And it's right next to this nuclear grid.
And then I think there was a Netflix Encounter episode, I think episode four, focused on that
as well.
And Malmstrom, where you mentioned, that is the site of tons and tons of activity.
These are people who work at the nuclear bases.
The picture of mental health and of sound mind.
The UFO legacy program has to be keeping tabs on what you guys are doing.
That would be my guess, right?
Cause that's what Nolan has as well.
I find this really interesting because in the Bifield Brown effect with Townsend
and one of the, one of the two is paramagnetic and the other is diamagnetic.
There are individuals at NASA who are interested in that.
And since I've gotten interested and been vocal about it, I've had some of the, some of them
Um, so one of the people at NASA has actually written a CIA training manual for remote viewing.
Really?
be studying, which is fascinating.
On that patent, that NASA patent, I believe Larry Smalley, it has his name there.
Right. And I think it's more likely they switched the debris.
Well, Marcel claimed that the real UFO debris was off to the side, right outside of the frame.
Everything is pretty limited, so there's no endless restocks. Once it's gone, it's entirely gone. If you
missed anything from our original drops and you want to go out and represent, now's the time to go grab
temperature range, you're not going out of it. And so it's much more stable temperature wise.
The pressure varies with depth dramatically. I mean, atmospheric pressure varies with atmospheric
so it's a great place to hide. Yeah. It's so there's every reason to go to the water.
colonize. You can either just plan to stay in your spaceships, right? We're just going to live in our
spaceships. That's probably the easiest thing to do. Right. Or to colonize airless worlds like the moon,
it creates a, um, a question there. Do you think there are UFO bases? I think that's probably,
that that's probably the best bet. Really? Yeah. And you went to Catalina,
um, science takes a lot longer, we're a lot slower. And, um, so the scientific study of what the data we
collected took a lot longer and that got published just last year. So our mission was what in 2021
Yeah. They're just transporting it and they're flying across Alaska. And,
and first, I don't remember all the events and several things happened. They actually saw several
one o'clock and then the next sweep of the radar, which is about 12 seconds or so would be, would be at
Daniel Kumbay, That's amazing. Yeah. John Callahan, who was the FAA
250,000 miles an hour. And you can actually see the position of the plane on the radar.
Daniel Kumbay, That is remarkable.
Donald Hornig.
Whoa.
12 and what they do. And you know, who knows?
there's probably informal groups and all that sort of thing. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you think, you know, we've mentioned nuclear connection a bunch in this conversation.
one can have. One is that they're sort of doing some sort of intelligence recon or something. And then,
another is that they're just protecting their resources. Somehow the earth maintaining itself
in its current form is important, or maybe we're a resource, you know, humans are a resource to them.
And so they need to intervene and ensure, you know, things don't, we don't blow ourselves up or
something. Yeah.
But it's, it's really hard to say. I mean, I know like the Age of Disclosure,
Lou Elizondo, you know, kind of crew, like they talk about it as far as
like, uh, they're monitoring our ability to achieve energy breakthroughs. So that would be the tip of
the spear of energy breakthroughs. Like high energy physics occurs in the national labs and your,
you know, atomic sites and that sort of thing. And, you know, we could, we could break out of our
cage or something if we, if we achieve some unlock. And so there are various theories.
Humans are a hot mess, right? And so if they, if they're present in the universe,
in our neighborhood, and then right now they don't have to deal with us directly,
but if we go out there, they might have to deal with us. I think Stanton Friedman put it this way.
you'd want it from another observatory and you'd want the actual transients to line up one-to-one
ideally. Right. Right. At least with some correlation. That would be really important.
Bean. I met him and talked to him. He was from Apollo 12. And he said that when he went up to Skylab,
There might be a base somewhere in our solar system and the U S is probably hiding information.
So fast.
And there's maybe the best UFO photo you could ever ask for.
It's like a perfect UFO photo.
and negative, right?
Where you don't know what kind of process, and it's JPEG, which is, which is, um,
So, what do you think's going on with this object?
That's hardly any, the things, comets are dirty snowballs.
They're made of water.
And so just claiming it's a comet and throwing up your hands and walking away is stupid.
But, like, this data set that we're talking about with UFOs showing up around nuclear weapons, just, like, totally ignorant of it.
You're not just following the evidence.
And so you think of this priestly citadel as, like, infallible when it comes to thinking about these things.
But in fact, they can be shepherded into, you know, in some ways they can be shepherded even more easily because they think they're so smart.
You know, if I talk about something else, another scientific topic, they're fine.
But this, they just seem to stop thinking.
And, like, Yang Mills and, you know, interesting stuff.
So my former colleague, Eric Weinstein, has suspected that maybe he has something to do with the UFO question or something.
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