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Some of them I knew when I was at NASA have come talk to me and said,

So the question I've had is why, when we had the NASA commission,

And you have a NASA background as well.

I had the opportunity to have clearance when I worked at NASA.

At NASA, you mentioned the people there weren't really into UFOs.

So she has this NASA mission controller who I guess now is public, but his name is Tim

There are individuals at NASA who are interested in that.

I knew when I was at NASA have come to talk to me and said, oh yeah, I was interested.

You have Hal Pollenmeier who was a, I think he was both CIA and NASA showing up at Chris

You find that, you know, I've now had a couple people from NASA, I find out were interested

Is there a, when were, are they doing remote viewing in a professional capacity at NASA?

Um, so one of the people at NASA has actually written a CIA training manual for remote viewing.

And, and that person did it before they came to NASA, but, um, but our current,

the, or, or, or NASA, they may be retired now.

On that patent, that NASA patent, I believe Larry Smalley, it has his name there.

So like NASA, I don't like, it almost seems like what you're saying is there is no official

knowledge of UFOs, but it's like these people within NASA that are extremely interested in

And, and NASA isn't like that now, but when I worked there, which was the early two thousands,

you had to convince your area lead that this was in line with NASA's missions basically in some way.

what does that memo say? And so me and one of my colleagues at NASA, because we were,

what this memo says, and then we're going to publish it as a NASA publication, but it's going

make it public and make it an official NASA publication. Right. That was, that was our

earth, which would crush you. And it's about 800 degrees Fahrenheit. And actually I was at NASA

Interesting. Do you know of any interesting space-based encounters of UFOs, like NASA encounters?

when we had the NASA commission, why was there no section on what astronauts have seen in space?

Really? Yeah. None of that mentioned in the NASA commission's report.

weren't even mentioned in the NASA commission report. Why? Shouldn't that be of interest?

So do you think, I mean, you were, you were at NASA. Do you think NASA's sort of

with a current NASA person who said that NASA tracks what they call uncorrelated targets all the time.

Well, proof that, um, NASA, you know, probably knows something, a thing or two internally about

So we have, we have this, um, this Simpkinson NASA UFO archive and this photo, which is like,

Now, of course, it's easy to claim, well, NASA erased the UFO from that picture.

So, so NASA, the Gemini project, Gemini meaning twins, was all about docking.

Was that officially published in some NASA thing?

It was found in Scott Simpkinson was a NASA engineer.

Um, he was, he was actually the first engineer hired by NASA.

So he had, he had, and he had a collection of his NASA files.

He and his secretary, Emily Erdl, had a collection of, of their NASA files.

that there's almost institutional NASA knowledge of the fact that the Gemini 11 astronauts did see a UFO.

And why none of this is mentioned in the NASA Commission's report, I have no idea.

Speaking of NASA obstruction, 3i Atlas, you know, we have this Manhattan-sized object that is now

And then NASA did this stupid gaslighting press conference where I was honestly a little skeptical of some of Avi's statements.

But I ended up, I wanted to side with Avi after watching this gaslighting NASA thing.

Well, first, NASA press conferences are the absolute worst.

I mean, every, even when I was at NASA, you wait for this press conference.

And you're always, and part of the problem is that your expectation for excitement from NASA is way too high.

So, I can't, not all the blame should go to NASA for that.

And I don't even think he's probably familiar with a lot of the NASA cases, you know, because these seem like anecdotal, small sample size, you know, conspiratorial things.

Until 2022 happened, there's a NASA UAP panel.

On the NASA UAP review panel.

Because we were just talking about all the weird NASA data and that seems to be, you know, it seems like it might be suppressed or something.

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