Daniel Kumbay

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Daniel Kumbay, another, um, physicist from the Niels Bohr Institute actually took the radar. I didn't,

Daniel Kumbay, That's, that's not a joke.

Daniel Kumbay, So you've got something the size of an aircraft carrier

Daniel Kumbay, We have the radar data.

Daniel Kumbay, That's amazing. Yeah. John Callahan, who was the FAA

Daniel Kumbay, And so they came to collect the data. Callahan copied it and put it in a box that

Daniel Kumbay, And now that's public.

Daniel Kumbay, He held onto it for like 20 years. And then when he retired, he made it public.

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah. He's a hero, right?

Daniel Kumbay, Kinda. Yeah.

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah.

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah. But he said, so when he was in the meeting with Reagan's scientific team,

Daniel Kumbay, Wow.

Daniel Kumbay, And so that exists. But from that radar data, it's accelerating at 10,000 g's,

Daniel Kumbay, That is remarkable.

Daniel Kumbay, And at the one point where the plane actually does a 360 to try to shake this thing,

Daniel Kumbay, Are the pilots still alive?

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah, I think so.

Daniel Kumbay, I want to get in touch with them.

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah, I'm sure. The one pilot was actually fired.

Daniel Kumbay, Okay.

Daniel Kumbay, Okay.

Daniel Kumbay, For going public with it. He was fired and had his license taken away. And then

Daniel Kumbay, That's horrible that he was fired for that. I mean, what are you supposed to,

Daniel Kumbay, What would lying about it be a better thing to do for flight safety?

Daniel Kumbay, Yeah, right.

Daniel Kumbay, That's really the question.

Daniel Kumbay, Just ignore it. Yeah, that's crazy. Fascinating. You know, there's that audio recording

Daniel Kumbay, Oh, right. I've heard this. Yes.

Daniel Kumbay, And Reagan says, you know, a lot of you in this room know that everything on that screen there

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