It would seem there has to be somebody outside of the cave doing this. Like, somebody has to, from the perspective enlightenment, be pulling us through.
The light itself also feels like this kind of, it's like an inflection point where it could either sort of eviscerate us or it could kind of save us.
You know, it's like does something super unprecedented happen when we discover, you know, the myth makers. When we developed the perceptive apparatuses through high energy output or through some sort of ascended consciousness to like see who's like messing with us.
So it's interesting what Plato's depicting for us is this moment where everybody was kind of together behaving civilly for the last time.
Which I think is important for how we understand this book and whether or not it's like proposing to us an optimistic or pessimistic view of things. Right.
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Hmm. Be pulling us through. Do you see that? Yeah. Oh, book. I think tricks you into following that very process.
us of it. That's so interesting. Yeah. I mean, like the light itself also feels like this kind of,
either sort of eviscerate us or it could kind of save us. And I think about technology now. And it
of parasitizing us, especially after the advent of information technology, you know, used to be kind
of augmenting us. And now it's sort of outsourcing, you know, our abilities. And then at the same
Mulder was right. I've never seen anything like it. Even going out of like that from us half an hour.
And for us, it's technology, right? But what I sound really troubling about and it's interesting,
make us think that maybe the cave is not just a bug, but a feature of human cognition.
that hard. And how do we know that that's not being done to us on some sort of grand scale?
literature can like open us to new reels and things like that. Okay. So it's opening it wider and
Prometheus is being bound by technology. It's the God that gives us technology, but he is bound
What the world is is simply the conditions at which it's accessible to us.
of the world simply on the terms that it's useful to us. If we make that admission, then we're
Anything that will open us to maybe something else could show itself to us that would change our
for ourselves, to everything. And what his worry is is this will lead us to what he calls a certain
Yes. Yeah. And we'll only see it as what it is to us how we can access it.
I think you can gesture to actually draw us, I think a connection between, you know, sort of
is it it provides a place sort of like a theater where an actor could show up for us. Okay, so for
to show up for us right if the transcendence is going to show up for us then it cannot be our doing
some pressure on us from outside our own wealth. Right. That we would do well to at least strategize how
weird going on now where it seems like now people want us to believe it. Right. So either way,
tell us some like stuff that like there's clearly some truth in it. Exactly. And then, you know, maybe
not that you really ever was like, well, we're going to get the government to tell us.
bringing the observer into, you know, the observed or there's something about working on us.
right? You know, that that for us as opposed to that, which things are in themselves,
causes the emergence of consciousness in us. And it's, and I think whatever you think consciousness
or something. And then there's the individual nodes. Yeah. And even, you know, if you think of us
manage us. So there's a film that I mean, I saw in high school, right? That like it's been with me since
in the kind of rationality, this is lending us to is like it's sort of like I think in a lot of
putting technological balls into play that will come back to us as if gods. You should
Yes. And then in these technologies and then those things will come back and run us.
with us. Yeah. And does that just unravel reality? And think of like the cosmic meaning of like
change us in ways that none of us have probably really dealt with. Yes. In our unconscious.
think I think a lot of us have this sense that there's another factor. Yeah. Totally. Or like
us to ascend outside of the cave yeah and I asked Jacques Valle this I said are there protocols and
effect on us right not only like our technologies if I have some fake smile I put on for the next three