You know, if there's a push and a pull outside of the cave or whatever, is the UFO some sort of pulling technology because you talk about this where it's this thing that it busts all of your priors.
Well, first thanks for having me. It's a real honor to be here. Yeah, I appreciate. I think the only thing that's really surprised me, I guess I should say what surprised me the most about this whole process of getting the UFO and bringing philosophy into it is that no one had done it before in this way.
I think like a lot of people, I got kind of, you know, triggered about the UFO in like 2017,
about what the actual nature of being is. Right. I thought I was starting to see the UFO was a great,
do UFO somehow speak to that because they seem weakly entangled with our reality. They seem to be
Get the perfect gene. One of the books that really turned me on the UFO. And I think it probably
was Carl Jung's book, you know, UFO, the modern myth, modern myth of things in the sky. And
So I think about that with the nuclear UFO connection. But I wonder about that. Yeah. Because it's
of a platonic and UFO context? So I got, I got really obsessed with Sophocles Prometheus bound
is the UFO a technology that sort of you know if there's a push in a pull outside of the cave or
whatever is the UFO some sort of pulling technology because you do talk about this where it's this
that's kind of a rye land with the as it were with the UFO is it seems like something's knocking.
And so what do I do with like, say disclosure movement stuff like that? Yeah. And the UFO is
funny because in modern UFO world lots of junk food is probably not good for that I agree right yeah
really cool to like shoot up on a UFO into like some other realm or whatever like you know enox style
and like look you can you can see in the UFO world like some people will go for anything pro UFO right
were here today yeah and he saw the UFO thing the AI thing like he saw this sort of like these
the UFO topic I I want to hold myself to this standard and I think we should be held to this
everything everything and it's all so it's like the UFO thing is so it's so it's often very
fascinating you have Jacques the like you know calling his working group on UFO you a pho you a