We don't want just, you know, propeller aircraft.
We would like you to do it because we knew about sort of jets, you know, maybe in the beginning of
CIA went to them and said, create the spy plane that we need it now.
We needed, you know, Lockheed Martin said, okay, took a separate chunk out,
are honored or something like that and or 100 people are on it and then you put it there.
Those are usually safeguarded from most members of Congress in the Senate.
some information on data that you picked up may not be a crashed, you know, a crash retrieval
or something like that. Or it could be, I don't know. But if even if just by looking, you know,
if they could pose a threat, you have to look at them. That's why, you know, when, when,
you're looking at it and you're going, how the hell do they do 40,000 G's either equivalent
to 40,000 G's? You know, there's nothing we have in our toolbox that can even approach that.
anomalies that you see. He's 40 and, you know, a bunch of data that comes up and we need to study
Well, I don't know. I mean, I couldn't comment at that. I mean, I'll tell you, CIA's do this
all the time. And he's C.I.A. would have a program. And well, our, you know, Google Earth. Google
develop an expertise or you can develop a little niche that you could follow. And usually,
if they're good at it, they'll let you do it. And mine was high tech. And I loved high tech
and technology is weird exotic technologies, but no, I had nothing to do with
the crash retrieval programs or UFOs at all. And I was like, the laugh and people say, well, you
know, do you know anything about CIA activities regarding UAP? And I said, you know,
30 some years of working for them, I've never seen a UAP office or, you know, or UFO office anywhere.
And I mean, every once in a while, you would hear people talk, you know, about things, but
there was nothing you can, you can pin down. But yeah, I mean, more terrestrial type
technologies. Yes, I know quite a bit about them. Or I did, you know, now I'm sort of outdated. But
yeah, I mean, if you had, if you had to speculate on like UAP inspired technologies today,
what do you think some of those might be?
Um, well, I mean, you know, and I gravity, for instance, is, and space time metric work,
we were all talking. And, you know, a lot of us had the top-seeker clearances. And so, but we
were always very, very careful about sharing information, because, you know, I had my own
on how he would design it. And, you know, and I wanted to put it on a t-shirt right away, you know,
we couldn't do it. But it's a picture of it. We have hanging somewhere. I don't know where it is.
It's not, I mean, sexual is homoerotic in some cases.
putting a US citizen in any kind of danger, right? You can't use US citizens like that. And that is
throughout the government. So it would be an enormously risky enterprise. It would have to be
I don't know, you know, I know, no, I have a pretty good idea who's behind it, but I'm not going to
talk about that. Yeah. Right. And now, just to kind of shift the conversation a little bit to
experience, you're pretty much on the ride, man. I mean, you're in for keeps pretty much. It's,
you know, kind of hard to turn back afterwards. Well, yeah, it is. And I'm not saying, like,
But if that's the case, well, the phenomena's got to fit in there somewhere. And it sure is how
contact and consciousness with UAP? Yeah, that's a really good question. You know, I'm of a mixed
you know, I like to view the, I like to view the phenomena through the light of the, the gym.
dangerous activity. And I consider contact dangerous activity because you, you know, and you don't
know what you're walking into. You just don't you have no idea what this is. And, yeah, and though,
cases, you know, it could be 50, 50 sometimes is 60, 40. I don't know. But, but I just said, I always
what he was really talking about was entities that are invited in. And once they're invited in,
you know, sometimes it takes a hell of a lot to get rid of them and sometimes if you accept
Well, again, and I think it's important that, you know, whether we agree or disagree that we have
these mature conversations, but I can, and take in other people's perspectives, you know, hopefully
Right. And it morphed into this whole completely, you know, different, different thing. Now,
did he choose, I mean, did he make the conscious decision to, you know, take lemons and turn them
absolutely not. And when we're basically saying, uh, the military needs been followed because
until we know exactly what it is, it's, you know, that's their job, right, protecting
hell thing came from, but we definitely know it's manufactured. And we definitely know, it's been
looked at by national labs. And every one of them said it would take an enormous amount of money.
And we don't even think we'd have the time. In other words, we don't think there's enough time
100 years maybe get to this capacity. I mean, to get to this point, we'll make it, oh, yeah,
it is really, really odd piece. And this is the, this is the layered business.
Business, that's 83 separate layers. And there's there's some elements. I mean, I don't like to talk
about how it functions, you know, it functions as a, a wave guide at the micro level. It
reportedly has the ability to lose mass once you put energy into it, certain amounts of energy into it.
But if you're looking at it and, you know, the military is looking at it so many different ways,
they're looking at it for their own benefit, right? So if they come back and say, look,
to hit on that one if that's the case. But, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I know Eric is not a huge
fan of Lazar at all. But it is funny that there's that similarity and the time frame as well as
but I do know who he is. And I, I certainly, I mean, I spoke to him on the phone and we haven't met
a couple other projects, one's an involved howl. And we're notewing. And we have,
And but when we were working with Microsoft and Amazon about running the cloud structure for
because it was going to be interactive. And we were going to take stuff in from people.
was trying to do. This is now what the UAP ask force is trying to do. How do you take all this data
and a Jacques, you know, you know, actually built, Jacques, really actually built the data programs
probably the most fascinating journey you can ever be on. Politics, things along those lines.
I mean, that's for sects second tier. The first tier is this. This is the unknown. This is the