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They did and and and that program was never going to be public and then when CIA got into the picture in 47 and 48.

I mean, Eisenhower talked about the military and industrial complex.

He wasn't a happy guy and the reason he wasn't a happy guy was because pre-World War II,

World War II, we want you to pursue that too.

So that really was the beginning of the industrial, military industrial complex.

Yeah, they, they pretty much have access to that.

And they, if I want to understand, they do brief people on the National Security Council

at the gang of eight. And so, so their obligations are actually met.

there's a possibility it may be true. But for me to find out, it's going to cost X amount of

dollars. So say, say, the Navy came to me and said, we need that, we need, but we need to know.

do you think any of that is going to kind of pierce the shell of the legacy programs?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I really do. But, you know, I'm going to qualify that.

I don't think it's because these programs deliberately want to hide. And you know, I mean,

where you have a nefarious cabal in there saying, no, no, we're never going to tell the American

It's a Bill Burns. Yeah. And I think there was a lot of material that was added in there that made

no sense to me when I was reading it. Yeah. I think the core story is true. I can't imagine why

yeah, I mean, if you had, if you had to speculate on like UAP inspired technologies today,

we couldn't do it. But it's a picture of it. We have hanging somewhere. I don't know where it is.

But yeah, I mean, he looked at it and he said, this is what it would look like. And he said, but,

Yeah, you know, I don't know. I have friends in mind that, you know, we look at Chris Blood says

experience, probably one of the most dramatic. If you hear, you know, him tell the story,

it's just absolutely incredible. And if you know the man, you know, you know, this is a guy who's

about a straight up honest, decent human being, you could possibly imagine. This is just a wonderful,

wonderful man. His children, his wife, you can't get any better than this. So they're all

Americans family. They're just wonderfully good people. And I always look at kids, you know, and I mean,

as I can find, meet the parents, you know, and I look at the kids and kids are crap shooting. I don't

know if you have anything. I don't have any, but kids are just a crap shoot. Great parents,

lousy kids, vice versa. Or sometimes that when you have parents that are really, really good and

you look at the kids and the kids are just, you know, just great. They love each other. They love

their parents think they get along real well. And you look at that and you go, okay, that's a

that's a family. Yeah, everybody, every family has his functions and what have you about.

kind of end of the spectrum talking about it, it's very interesting. Well, you know, let's look at

it this way. I mean, you know, once again, there is a, you have to be very, very careful. And that's

scenarios, false memories, that would probably mean that the technology has advanced considerably

since the 70s when it was first being, you know, experimented with. But the technology

talk about that. Yeah. Right. And now, just to kind of shift the conversation a little bit to

hair at night and then, you know, reading them stories and putting in the bed. Well, every time my

wife would go out wearing a trip, she's a medical professional. She'd go out wearing a trip, she'd come

I didn't know what to make of it. It was just the most amazing thing I've ever experienced.

You can say like people do about God, you know, about 20 million, you know, a Russian sty during

World War II, six billion Jews, where the hell is God? Oh, God works in mysterious ways.

important actually to reframe it, especially with what's going on now, and kind of, you know,

again, another, another framework to look at it. And then again, I actually, in the article,

And how that's going to affect them, you know, that's another part of the conversation story.

Um, but, um, you know, it's, um, it's, you know, and I hate to sound like a, um, you know,

their, their materials, um, that they found, you know, with, uh, Diana,

reportedly has the ability to lose mass once you put energy into it, certain amounts of energy into it.

fan of Lazar at all. But it is funny that there's that similarity and the time frame as well as

very similar. But I did kind of want to ask you kind of an aside question. Your, your,

couple years to decide what they want to do. They're a great organization. We're really happy

that they picked it up. We also have some animated series that have nothing to do with UFOs or UWP's

that we've sold. And they're in pre-production right now, Tom's movie,

Manchester, California, young adult kind of movie, which is very good. And I've seen the movie. And

we're looking at distributors right now and we're in discussions with them. We're working on

a couple other projects, one's an involved howl. And we're notewing. And we have,

I think with the Army, and we probably have got about six other really cool treatments.

We've already hired some, I mean, really first-rate screenwriters to write them in. We're working with

cartel productions and some other companies to get them out.

He's like, hey, show me send me your video. When we'll run it through our, you know, we'll run it

through our database. And we can tell you with pretty high degree of certainty whether it's real

heavily involved. Like some of the people I hang out with don't get heavily involved in it

is because they'll write books and they'll just stay safe things. But there's no sourcing for any of it.

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