And it was during that time that I met some people from the Pentagon, who were running the, it was a lose group that was running the ATI program and through John Alexander actually ran into John Alexander.
Anyway, long story that started the connection, Jacques the lay came out to see me. He was the first one and then some other people came out to see me and then I got briefed briefed on two or three times and then I met Lou, who I knew of, but I didn't I didn't know his last name. I knew it was as Louie and I didn't know anything else, but anyway, I went down and went into his, his conference room in the inner corridors of the Pentagon.
Steve justice from the skunk works lucky morn skunk words came on board and and then Lou member talking to Lou you know and when at the Pentagon and of course Tom didn't know who Lou was and I couldn't tell him who Lou was but Lou decided he was going to you know resign and.
And there are some things. And then I'm glad the Pentagon papers came out, for instance, but